From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24503: unstable test results (on hydra) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:57:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3fh9552qq6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511891908 15952 195.159.176.226 (28 Nov 2017 17:58:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:58:28 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) To: 24503@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 28 18:58:15 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8z-0002nq-GU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:58:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39398 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk96-0000Fw-TW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:58:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37047) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8x-0000EL-Cr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:58:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8w-0005cY-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:58:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8w-0005cN-HO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8w-0006pP-7h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:58:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24503 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24503-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24503.151189187026229 (code B ref 24503); Tue, 28 Nov 2017 17:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24503) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2017 17:57:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8k-0006oz-AU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:57:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46003) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8i-0006on-GF for 24503@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:57:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8X-0005Yg-QU for 24503@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:57:43 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8X-0005Yb-Ma for 24503@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:57:37 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eJk8X-0003gf-C5; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:57:37 -0500 X-Spook: CDMA undercover E. Coli mailbomb passwd red noise X-Ran: \iL@k6/3m=~=~MU_}3\Yksy68OO@P]}#=RD%W$k&`yY/0p4P=wiaao-/23u;/"[q:* X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:38:48 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140496 Archived-At: Tests that "randomly" fail, like the ones mentioned in this report, are a problem for downstream distributions that run "make check" and pay attention to the results (I sometimes think they pay more attention than Emacs does). They can waste their time investigating things that seem to be platform-specific just because they happen to fail once on a particular architecture. Eg https://bugs.debian.org/879020 So we do a disservice to the wider community with these tests that sometimes fail. If they aren't good enough to be enabled on Emacs's own CI system, they probably aren't good enough full-stop, and should be disabled by default for everyone.