From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24880: 26.0.50; buff-menu: Command to unmark all buffers Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 09:22:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <871syqnsyo.fsf@gmail.com> <83a8dejkne.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg2ox0hi.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478453230 21075 195.159.176.226 (6 Nov 2016 17:27:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24880@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tino Calancha , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 06 18:27:04 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3RDV-0003Gm-N8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 18:26:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45520 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3RDY-0007U0-L1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:26:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3R9t-0004O1-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:23:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3R9q-0008Uz-OO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:23:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59928) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3R9q-0008Ul-KJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:23:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3R9q-000156-BQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:23:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2016 17:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24880 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24880-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24880.14784529564108 (code B ref 24880); Sun, 06 Nov 2016 17:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2016 17:22:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3R9Q-00014C-JH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:22:36 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:21279) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3R9P-00013t-C7 for 24880@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2016 12:22:35 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uA6HMS0u008226 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:22:28 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uA6HMRcP018274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:22:28 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uA6HMQ2e022546; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:22:26 GMT In-Reply-To: <87eg2ox0hi.fsf@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125389 Archived-At: It would be far better, IMHO, to take the approach used by Dired for this.=20 In Dired, `M-DEL' (or `* ?') unmarks a specific mark (e.g. D). Or if it is followed directly by `RET', it unmarks all marks. This is relevant and useful behavior for all contexts, such as `*Buffer List*' (aka Buffer Menu), that let you mark things in more than one way. Users should be able to use `M-DEL' to selectively remove any one of the marks (D, S, >,...) _or_ all marks together (via `M-DEL RET'). The same approach should be taken for other, similar buffers that list objects that can be marked in more than one way, whether the objects be buffers (e.g. Ibuffer), packages, files, bookmarks, or whatever else. Besides giving users much more control, this provides a consistent UI. Users will then use `M-DEL RET' as the standard way to completely unmark an object. This is the approach I took with Bookmark+, for instance. It takes a tiny bit more work to implement, but the result is far more useful for users. (Just one opinion.)