From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15649: 24.3.50; removal of "special-display" from Emacs and Elisp manuals Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 15:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382133993 12658 80.91.229.3 (18 Oct 2013 22:06:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:06:33 +0000 (UTC) To: 15649@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 19 00:06:35 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIBi-0001Xh-0u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:06:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59506 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIBh-0004Br-D4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59271) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIBS-0004BY-E0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:06:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIBI-0007iG-7P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:06:14 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIBI-0007iC-3Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:06:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIBG-0003Cd-JB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:06:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15649 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.138213392912268 (code B ref -1); Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2013 22:05:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57296 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIAg-0003Bk-Rp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:05:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIAe-0003BS-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIAO-0007G9-V8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIAO-0007G4-S2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:05:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIAG-00044F-5M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:05:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIA7-0006qS-Ir for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:05:00 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:47279) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXIA7-0006qM-Cl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:04:51 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r9IM4n0P016071 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:04:50 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9IM4nrB011676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:04:49 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9IM4ml1011720 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:04:48 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79375 Archived-At: Please put back the doc about special-display buffers. This is a useful concept, and the special-display variables and functions are easy to use. This should not have been jettisoned in your excitement to revamp `display-buffer' and implement `display-buffer-alist'. It is much easier and more understandable for someone to use `special-display-regexps' or `special-display-buffer-names' than it is to use `display-buffer-alist' to try to accomplish the same thing. Having `display-buffer-alist', to be able to deal with every fantastic combination imaginable, does not preclude also having the easy-to-use special-display features. You've added to the possible, unintelligible, and corner cases, but you have thrown out the baby with the bathwater: The common, simple cases are now as complex as any others. Nothing is gained by throwing special-display away. KISS. Think of Emacs users. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-10-09 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 114596 jan.h.d@swipnet.se-20131009185014-vynfyw4o8p5fge54 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG= =3D1'