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Contovounesios wrote: > Andreas Röhler writes: > >> On 17.07.19 16:38, Basil L. Contovounesios wrote: >>> "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: >>> >>>> Andreas Röhler writes: >>>> >>>>> From my point of view it's not that much about the docu but about the design. >>>>> >>>>> Users should not be forced to add an extra argument to prevent auto-fill when it >>>>> is about a newline. >>>> Users who do not want auto-filling should not enable auto-fill-mode, >>>> either directly or by setting auto-fill-function. >>> Alternatively, users who want auto-fill-mode to ignore newlines can do >>> the following: >>> >>> (aset auto-fill-chars ?\C-j nil) >>> >>> This is documented under (info "(elisp) Commands for Insertion") and >>> (info "(elisp) Auto Filling"). >>> >> Okay, commonly there many ways in Emacs to work around an issue, which is >> great. But that doesn't solve it at source. By its semantic newline is unrelated >> to filling, from there that behavior is not to expect, idiosyncratic. > Unless you or someone else has a concrete proposal for how to fix said > idiosyncratic behaviour in a backward-compatible way, I think that ship > has sailed. > Decoupling it should not break anything. When fixed, just setting an auto-fill-function will no longer trigger auto-fill in case auto-fill-mode is off.