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Wed, 14 Jun 2023 22:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <875y89t2a1.fsf@localhost> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:263390 Archived-At: On 31/05/2023 09:59, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >>> However, this command will fail for built-in packages. This is >>> particularly a problem for older (<29) Emacs versions. >> You probably want to set `package-install-upgrade-built-in' to non-nil, >> or use the package menu to install packages. > Sure. But only in Emacs >=29 and it is not mentioned on the ELPA page. > For Emacs <29 ELPA instruction simply does not work - attempting to > follow it will just produce unhelpful message that package is already > installed. Is that a problem with the command or with the expectations? When Org is built-in, it *is* already installed, isn't it? You will also see the same message if you try to use 'M-x package-install' as a means to upgrade any other already-installed package, whether it is built-in or not.