From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Sainty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62164: 29.0.60; ediff behaves poorly by default on tiling window managers Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 02:13:01 +1300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31456"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Orcon Webmail To: 62164@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 14 14:14:11 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Tj-00081Y-63 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:14:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Td-0001DV-R1; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Tb-0001CT-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Ta-0004vR-Oo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Ta-0003lo-6d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Phil Sainty Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62164 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62164-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62164.167879958614421 (code B ref 62164); Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62164) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2023 13:13:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36651 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Sf-0003kX-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-3.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.44]:57129) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Se-0003kM-C1 for 62164@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=44195 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-3.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pc4Sb-0004RB-Ti for 62164@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 02:13:02 +1300 Original-Received: from ip-180-148-124-51.kinect.net.nz ([180.148.124.51]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 15 Mar 2023 02:13:01 +1300 X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:257932 Archived-At: Spencer Baugh wrote: > ediff defaults to a multiframe UI on graphical displays. If the > user is running a tiling window manager on X, the control panel > frame gets tiled and the whole thing becomes either very ugly or > unusable. > > This is a very long-standing bug, but it should be fixed. Most > tiling window manager users work around this with: > > (setq ediff-window-setup-function 'ediff-setup-windows-plain) Myself included -- the default value tends to give me a full-screen control frame entirely obscuring the original frame, which is very unhelpful indeed. That problem aside, I've observed that creating a separate GUI frame can be *significantly* slower; so for me the plain option is a win for performance as well as usability. As `ediff-setup-windows-plain' is the faster and the most reliable option across differing kinds of windowing systems, I am strongly in favour of changing the default `ediff-window-setup-function' value to that. Users who prefer the separate frame can easily make that change in their configs easily enough, and improvements to better support a separate control frame can of course still go ahead. -Phil