From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3579: 23.0.94; Customize: Cannot see error messages if use standalone minibuffer Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 21:47:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <769A36CCB7F24081932EDA6DDE69C4D5@us.oracle.com> <87wqh37db7.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392011296 8102 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2014 05:48:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3579@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 10 06:48:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjjC-0003d4-PW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:48:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53525 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjjC-0007JG-BH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:48:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60480) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjj0-0007J0-W5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjis-0007TA-Db for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjis-0007T6-AF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjir-000318-Sc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:48:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3579 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3579-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3579.139201123911543 (code B ref 3579); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3579) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 05:47:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33641 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCjiA-000305-N9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:47:19 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCji7-0002zw-Ea for 3579@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A5lExJ014005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:47:14 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A5lCXH029542 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:47:13 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A5lC2O016447; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:47:12 GMT In-Reply-To: <87wqh37db7.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85212 Archived-At: > This was four years ago. Are you still seeing this problem? Yes (but see below). What actually happens (I might not have been aware of this when I sent the report) is that the error message flashes in the echo area very briefly, but it is immediately replaced by the previous echo area contents, which might be a message, such as `Back to top level' or it might be blank space (perhaps from a call such as (message nil)?). IOW, I think the problem is that the error message is transient, and far too brief. There is no reason to restore whatever echo-area contents were there before. With emacs -Q the error message remains. It seems there is something in my setup, besides just useing a standalong minibuffer, that causes this. I will try to bisect the code later to see if I can narrow it down. You can close this bug, please. If I narrow it down and find an Emacs bug I'll report it. Thx.