From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19012: 25.0.50; `help-window-select' Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:42:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415637822 14429 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2014 16:43:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:43:42 +0000 (UTC) To: 19012@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 17:43:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3u-00036p-RT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:43:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44061 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3u-00054E-GR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:43:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41315) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3g-00052L-AL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:43:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3T-0002ue-SD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:43:16 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58963) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3T-0002uZ-Oi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:43:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3T-0004ky-JI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:43:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:43:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 19012 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.141563777318251 (code B ref -1); Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:43:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2014 16:42:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56174 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3I-0004kJ-HX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns3F-0004k8-Sj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns35-0002qC-7N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:49 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:49206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns35-0002q8-4b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41095) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns2w-0004tA-8N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns2m-0002ic-T5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:30 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:51707) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xns2m-0002hG-N7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:20 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sAAGgInJ026662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:42:19 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAAGgIrP020037 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:42:18 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAAGgHhj020025 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:42:17 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:95821 The description of `other' in the Customize buffer (and the doc string) is incorrect. Or else the behavior is bugged. If *Help* is shown in its own frame (e.g. from *Help* being a special-display buffer), and if the option value is `other' (the default), then the *Help* window (and frame) are *not* selected, in contradiction to what the doc says. On MS Windows, at least, if the *Help* frame in this context does not yet exist then yes, that frame (and thus the *Help* window is selected - the frame gets the input focus. But that is because Windows always gives a newly created frame the focus. And if the frame exists already then no, the *Help* window and its frame are not selected. Focus stays with the frame where you invoked the help command. Note too that the description is anyway inadequate, because it seems to make the assumption that there *is* another window on the help window's frame: "unless the selected window is the only other window on the help window's frame" is not clear for the case where there is no such other window. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1'