From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35885: 25.2; Few mistakes in Emacs Manual (+ proposals) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <> <> <<83k1e2tym6.fsf@gnu.org>> <> <<835zpltme6.fsf@gnu.org>> <> <<83muiwrn2u.fsf@gnu.org>> <<1583c6b3-2421-794d-8c8b-86287ef3fd5a@gmail.com>> <<83tvczb236.fsf@gnu.org>> <<616312d4-0faf-0382-3f21-5b66327d8d8b@gmail.com>> <<83tvcx9xyl.fsf@gnu.org>> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="192224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35885@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Sebastian Urban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 10 19:47:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haONy-000npm-Pn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:44:52 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2t04hxwg7e-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:44:52 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x5AHioic018604; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:44:51 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83tvcx9xyl.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4861.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9284 signatures=668687 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906100120 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9284 signatures=668687 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906100120 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:160336 Archived-At: > I don't think I understand (and if I do, I disagree). The text says: > if N is negative, ... leaving -N spaces before point. > When N is negative, -N is positive, so the original text sounds > correct to me. Yes, it's correct. But it's not obvious - it's easy to misread it. Of course, it's not possible to leave a negative number of spaces (at least I don't know what that would mean). A careful reader will figure it out, but that might mean having to read it more than once. I think it would be clearer (by reminding that N is negative) to say "leaving (abs N) spaces..." (I do that in some of my doc strings, FWIW.)