From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33847: 27.0.50; emacsclient does not find server socket Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:44:59 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <8a6fc59c-08b3-e274-4fb1-74674c79540a@cs.ucla.edu> <9ebcad22-2cdb-46fb-4be9-efc4ad234b6d@cs.ucla.edu> <27d2f2eb-8956-4088-f3ec-5ff6c2cf2e8f@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546152246 32053 195.159.176.226 (30 Dec 2018 06:44:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 06:44:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 Cc: 33847@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 07:44:02 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUpO-0008EH-6m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 07:44:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43195 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUrU-0008PO-Vx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:46:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56544) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUrL-0008PF-4c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUrK-0000k9-Do for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57888) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUrK-0000k2-Ah for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUrK-0005f2-7c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 06:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33847 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33847-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33847.154615230919020 (code B ref 33847); Sun, 30 Dec 2018 06:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33847) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2018 06:45:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUqT-0004wP-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:45:09 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:50644) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdUqQ-0004pI-Gw for 33847@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 01:45:07 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508D8160DFF; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:45:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id L2PEvhoG7GlL; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:44:59 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94705160E16; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:44:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id l7j0uYec8QxO; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:44:59 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-23-242-74-103.socal.res.rr.com [23.242.74.103]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AD8F160DFF; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:44:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:154006 Archived-At: Ulrich Mueller wrote: > So you're saying that on systems that don't have XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, > placing the socket under TMPDIR is fine? Because I don't understand > that argument. If TMPDIR has security problem, then it shouldn't be > used anywhere. If it hasn't, then why can't we keep the current > (Emacs 26) solution? Because we're not absolutists. On older systems that do not have adequate provisions for security, Emacs does the best it can: that's better than not doing anything, and people who run older, less-secure systems are likely to not care all that much about security anyway so this is OK. On newer systems that are more secure, though, Emacs can be more secure. This is not anything new. In the bad old days when /tmp wasn't sticky, Emacs was less secure with temporary files, just like everyone else was. That didn't mean that Emacs should never have used temporary files.