From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4@gmail.com>,
4980@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#4980: 23.1.50; In File > Quit GUI, add "Cancel", write "Save", and simplify
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:38:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a50911191538w73f9e9b4r534e946645ee2777@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c241693f0911191505t2cb29a8ex718af639bdf13cbe@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I try to quit Emacs by clicking File > Quit, I see seven choices:
>
> (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>
> Save file foo.txt?
>
> * Yes
> * No
> * View This Buffer
> * View Changes In This Buffer
> * Save This But No More
> * Save All Buffers
> * No For All
>
> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>
> 1. As dak wrote in 2008 at
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=100634 there's
> no Cancel button. "Closing the dialog window happens to achieve that
> ... but it is not really obvious." Please add a Cancel button.
Aggeed.
> 2. For the first choice, instead of writing "Yes", write "Save".
> Usability researchers have found that action verbs are always better
> when a list of choices is provided. I can explain why if you require
> it.
Agreed. There is no reason for yes/no here. Use verbs to make it clear.
> 3. The seven choices act as a confusing way to ask me which files to
> save. Instead, as Joshua Juran <jjuran@gmail.com> suggested to me in
> Freenode #macdev, you should use a dialog box like "gedit" uses (
> screenshot at http://omploader.org/vMnQzaw ; download gedit for
> Windows / Mac at http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/ ):
> (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>
> [!] There are 2 document(s) with unsaved changes.
> Save before closing?
>
> Select the documents you want to save:
> | [x] foo.txt |
> | [x] bar.txt |
> | |
> | |
>
> If you don't save, your changes will be lost.
> ________ ______
> [ Close &without Saving ] [ &Cancel ] [________&Save______]
>
> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Yes, a dialog box is better. But it should be cross platform. No one
has yet tried to write this for w32. (I do not know for other
platforms.)
> Don't offer view-buffer or view-changes choices in a GUI. You see, a
> GUI should be simple instead of listing every possible choice the user
> might conceivably want. If the user wants to do so, they can click
> Cancel then do so themselves.
Not sure. This is for experienced users also. Fast ways are useful,
but maybe not when using dialog boxes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-19 23:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-19 23:05 bug#4980: 23.1.50; In File > Quit GUI, add "Cancel", write "Save", and simplify Jason A. Spiro
2009-11-19 23:38 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2009-11-20 3:59 ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-20 4:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-27 18:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-27 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27 21:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-28 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-28 13:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2009-11-20 9:31 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-20 9:55 ` Jan Djärv
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