From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4960: 23.1.50; Please provide access to the tour on the Help menu; preferably ship it also Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:08:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <16352.1258637742@chondestes.bio.unc.edu> Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 4960@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258641680 5407 80.91.229.12 (19 Nov 2009 14:41:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Jason A. Spiro" To: "Joel J. 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Adamson w= rote: >>>>>> "Jason" =3D=3D Jason A Spiro writes: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Hi, Please provide access to the Emacs guided tour on the = Emacs' > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Help menu. =C2=A0Preferably as the first item on the menu,= since it is > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> more useful than the tutorial. > > The tour shows features of Emacs, the tutorial shows you how to use the > basic editing commands. =C2=A0How is one "more useful" than the other? = =C2=A0I > agree that the tour is more useful if you're deciding whether to use > Emacs, but if you've already installed Emacs, you need to know how to > use it in order to get at those features. You might be showing Emacs to someone. Since it is at least on some systems easy to install you could use the tour to decide if you want to use Emacs for what you currently want to do. It may also give you inspirations for new ways to use Emacs.