From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3746: M-r in comint mode should use isearch Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 01:42:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200907031326.n63DQfPA027629@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87zlblpajc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200907051503.n65F3fDv003169@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87ab3hxprg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200907070121.n671LmLt029754@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87skh8ynnm.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <30EDDB5AC92A422E87D113B0A49C500E@us.oracle.com> <87zlbf1kr0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 3746@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247097482 4046 80.91.229.12 (8 Jul 2009 23:58:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dan Nicolaescu To: Juri Linkov , 3746@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 09 01:57:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MOh1O-0002QG-4m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:57:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43038 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MOh1N-0005ws-JB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MOh14-0005i1-N0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MOh0z-0005dZ-Lp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57662 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MOh0z-0005dV-HL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:50650) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MOh0y-0001vJ-TC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n68NvQao032715; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:57:27 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n68No567031360; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:50:05 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:50:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3746 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3746-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3746.124709653630398 (code B ref 3746); Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:50:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3746) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Jul 2009 23:42:16 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n68NgBrs030392 for <3746@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:42:13 -0700 Original-Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1535108bwz.18 for <3746@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:42:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u9dRTboMQ5OXsitiYRsSERtT0zJ96cOMmOahdwHzyZU=; b=XNd6EXdYHMpuAkPw32PAEjzKBRrJkJxQeCJL8q08m6yWDVMHFKq6DqAx+Bt0U9qP+Q 5I235iabz737RTEWlFMUbtUFjUGF2ajnPYrDBLUGntpMOYpC8Cl3dGfMn4fPSNbYPkOJ P5dVfP/78u8c1+Jp3TNF2v+P1R+e64+N4cRzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RwJqFpBR5FMbowJgrzvHQL+aeyXfOtvDNaa4V1QDM2C1G3rTdw2mgeQzBI0r7g+c39 V7JNu5CoVQVueJlrbMB4PE8u5b5MnYRwxDSaNiye/WIIwGh/1dnJdZ3fG8Z3cmP8k3GO EdsBofff/yOrRDqlYQ6iUK50M/7rFwmcNIrCk= Original-Received: by 10.239.156.65 with SMTP id l1mr9689hbc.34.1247096525636; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:42:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zlbf1kr0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:57:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:29269 Archived-At: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Juri Linkov wrote: >> The general objection is rather Occam's razor: _Why_ add such complexity= ? >> What is gained? Occasionally the added convenience of having a single ke= y >> to use makes a DWIM command worth it. But usually not. > > This case is an exception. > > C-r is the most frequent key I use in bash running in xterm because > it is very convenient to search for old commands in the shell history. > I suppose the same is true for other users. > > Using a different key in Emacs for the same functionality > will cause too much trouble. =C2=A0Just imagine when you have a habit I do not think it is an exception. I think it is a way of thinking we should always consider.