bug#3533: 23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP

bug#3533: 23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP

[Uwe Siart]

I'm using pretest Emacs 23.0.94 on both platforms W2k SP4 and XP SP3. By

,----
| M-x describe-input-method RET rfc1345 RET
`----

I get the full list of RFC1345 mnemonics.

On W2k almost all glyphs (aside from a couple of octal sequences) are
displayed. On XP, however, I get a lot of blank boxes there, just as if
all those glyphs were not included in the font.

Both Emacsen have identical settings and I did not make any changes to
the font variables ('fixed-pitch' points to Family:Monospace).



In GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.0.2195)
 of 2009-05-24 on SOFT-MJASON
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.0.2195
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: DEU
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  iswitchb-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  auto-insert-mode: t
  diff-auto-refine-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  pc-selection-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
M-x g n u s <return> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> C-u <return> 3 3 3 <return> 
M-> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <return> <down> <return> <up> <return> 
h <down> <down> <down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> 
<S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> 
<S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> 
<S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> M-w h 
<down> <return> C-x 5 b <return> M-x r e p o r t <tab> 
<return>

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bug#3533: 23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP

[Jason Rumney]

Uwe Siart wrote:
> On W2k almost all glyphs (aside from a couple of octal sequences) are
> displayed. On XP, however, I get a lot of blank boxes there, just as if
> all those glyphs were not included in the font.
>   

You likely have different fonts installed on the two machines. If you 
know any specific characters are supported by the font chosen but not 
shown in Emacs, please give detailed info about that character, 
including the info listed by C-u C-x = on both machines, and confirm 
that the font supports that character in the system Character Map applet.

bug#3533: 23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP

[Uwe Siart]

Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:

> Uwe Siart wrote:
>> On W2k almost all glyphs (aside from a couple of octal sequences) are
>> displayed. On XP, however, I get a lot of blank boxes there, just as
>> if all those glyphs were not included in the font.
>>   
>
> You likely have different fonts installed on the two machines. If you
> know any specific characters are supported by the font chosen but not
> shown in Emacs, please give detailed info about that character,
> including the info listed by C-u C-x = on both machines, and confirm
> that the font supports that character in the system Character Map
> applet.

Thanks for pointing me to "C-u C-x =". This showed me that on my W2k
machine the glyphs were taken from the font »Arial Unicode MS«. This
font was (for some reason which I do not know) available on my W2k
machine but not on the XP machine.

I did not expect that all those glyphs could be taken from more than one
font at a time so I compared only with respect to Courier New and thus
could not track down this problem by myself.

Please pardon me that I mistook this for a bug and submitted this
unnecessary report.

-- 
Uwe

bug#3533: 23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP

[Lennart Borgman]

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Uwe Siart<uwe.siart@tum.de> wrote:
> Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Uwe Siart wrote:
>>> On W2k almost all glyphs (aside from a couple of octal sequences) are
>>> displayed. On XP, however, I get a lot of blank boxes there, just as
>>> if all those glyphs were not included in the font.
>>>
>>
>> You likely have different fonts installed on the two machines. If you
>> know any specific characters are supported by the font chosen but not
>> shown in Emacs, please give detailed info about that character,
>> including the info listed by C-u C-x = on both machines, and confirm
>> that the font supports that character in the system Character Map
>> applet.
>
> Thanks for pointing me to "C-u C-x =". This showed me that on my W2k
> machine the glyphs were taken from the font »Arial Unicode MS«. This
> font was (for some reason which I do not know) available on my W2k
> machine but not on the XP machine.
>
> I did not expect that all those glyphs could be taken from more than one
> font at a time so I compared only with respect to Courier New and thus
> could not track down this problem by myself.
>
> Please pardon me that I mistook this for a bug and submitted this
> unnecessary report.

I asked you to submit a bug report. One of the reasons was to get a
clear answer that other people can access later.

Actually I am starting to think that the bug database is a big
resource. Maybe people would like to enter links to relavant bug
reports from EmacsWiki. That could be very useful since the
information in the bug reports that have been resolved are very
accurate.

bug#3533: marked as done (23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP)

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From: Uwe Siart <uwe.siart@tum.de>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:02:08 +0200
Message-ID: <87y6rz9ulb.fsf@tum.de>

I'm using pretest Emacs 23.0.94 on both platforms W2k SP4 and XP SP3. By

,----
| M-x describe-input-method RET rfc1345 RET
`----

I get the full list of RFC1345 mnemonics.

On W2k almost all glyphs (aside from a couple of octal sequences) are
displayed. On XP, however, I get a lot of blank boxes there, just as if
all those glyphs were not included in the font.

Both Emacsen have identical settings and I did not make any changes to
the font variables ('fixed-pitch' points to Family:Monospace).



In GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.0.2195)
 of 2009-05-24 on SOFT-MJASON
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.0.2195
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: DEU
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  iswitchb-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  auto-insert-mode: t
  diff-auto-refine-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  pc-selection-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
M-x g n u s <return> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> C-u <return> 3 3 3 <return> 
M-> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <return> <down> <return> <up> <return> 
h <down> <down> <down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> 
<S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> 
<S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> 
<S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> <S-down> M-w h 
<down> <return> C-x 5 b <return> M-x r e p o r t <tab> 
<return>

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From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
To: uwe.siart@tum.de
Cc: 3533-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: Re: bug#3533: 23.0.94; Availability of unicode glyphs on Win XP
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:43:16 +0800
Message-ID: <4A318884.1050807@gnu.org>

Uwe Siart wrote:
> Thanks for pointing me to "C-u C-x =". This showed me that on my W2k
> machine the glyphs were taken from the font »Arial Unicode MS«. This
> font was (for some reason which I do not know) available on my W2k
> machine but not on the XP machine.
>   
Thanks for confirming that, so we can close the bug.