From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3438: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 01:12:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <5f0ff9220906010736paad9321td86fd52326ebe722@mail.gmail.com> <87oct7sur8.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <31703F2EAE7D4CAF8E671B0C18916D01@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 3438@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243913194 30435 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2009 03:26:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 03:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3438@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, "T.V. 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Is not that a difficult distinction here? (In a word processor it would be different.) Exactly how do you do the distinction - as simple as possible, because if it is useful it must be easy to understand? One point I mentioned before is that code might look scrambled, but maybe that point could be cured some way? (If it really have to be cured ...)