From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:54:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> <87k58x1hq6.fsf@jurta.org> <87fxjkccbk.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232067822 30776 80.91.229.12 (16 Jan 2009 01:03:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 16 02:04:53 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LNd8l-0007n4-Rl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:04:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LNd7U-00046F-Qr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LNd7S-00045E-1C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LNd7R-00043X-7L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35349 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LNd7R-00043N-3N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47194) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LNd7Q-00025f-Kv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0G13QXt023701; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:03:26 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0G104hO022556; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:00:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1863 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1863-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1863.123206725020991 (code B ref 1863); Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Jan 2009 00:54:10 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0G0s75V020985 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:54:08 -0800 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so648583fgb.43 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:54:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2jgSUVb7XV/0+Uw3KOeG2sNxIOZtNRchUTlwYmBw8LM=; b=G5iyzdgaSXh3CT7TzsQXD4/U5ym01xrqxLlvdf8q5RDWe+wVeETgYp0z9dBh2edG3C KdmBSjclCQNTU/uMuPuvuhfqtyZYw3w9G0VVm3mHN9LwopssMVZ4rV7ePuMw1wPaU/dL nsUfi0Ih8BKDzdXyxvwJ3dYIK8bsMzlSjCr3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qbE1MkR+0LZAW2xulM5d40AjA+PPBShqKXNj0k3MXRE9hL8uYD4t2AGg8y6OpDgJ77 hXRL9vgE4KfVJ62iqvw6WGSKGOWGj8YtRptxcAdkcuI20wyiOdrUalgqA6RxUYrGXvMN bUQ3DC+WnBM8e1TO5V1xvJlVNz21CZ8LhZx2A= Original-Received: by 10.86.57.9 with SMTP id f9mr1668584fga.32.1232067246611; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:54:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87fxjkccbk.fsf@jurta.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24188 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> In your case I myself see nothing that can help then ;-) but I think >>>> newbees would benefit from having all the search and replace commands >>>> under search and replace in the edit menu. >>> >>> I can't believe we still don't have these useful commands in the menu. >>> But why do you think they should be placed in the Edit menu? >> >> That is where the search and replace commands normally are. Why do you >> doubt they should be there? > > The `Grep' menu entry is traditionally in the Tools menu because it reads > an external command like `Compile' and `Shell Command' do. So perhaps we > should add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the Tools menu. I think menus should see things from the users view, not from an internal view. Emacs itself does not really care how the menus look ... I would expect nearly all users to look for these commands in the Edit menu.