From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:33:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <005301c96b95$547ae890$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <4969D690.5090004@gmx.at> <496A28FD.6090909@gmx.at> <496B145C.2070104@gmx.at> <496B690C.7070506@gmx.at> Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231789445 32186 80.91.229.12 (12 Jan 2009 19:44:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:44:05 +0000 (UTC) To: Stefan Monnier , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 12 20:45:17 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LMSie-0001gv-Gx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:45:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33483 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMShO-0005Hb-8w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:43:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMShC-0005Dg-Gi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMSh7-0005CD-FY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:43:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55173 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMSh6-0005Bu-Up for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:43:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:51563) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMSh6-00022X-3t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:43:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0CJhP8Z023339; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:43:26 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0CJe3Ou022166; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:40:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.123178881720827 (code B ref 1754); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:40:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jan 2009 19:33:37 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0CJXX4m020821 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:33:35 -0800 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so5988642fgb.43 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:33:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=axOCtiNxvdNhjheoXVWMN7NpKgdODLFT80nYN8a8zD0=; b=VF115edhzWB6QiMfQUkQnlosC3nUV8iQIRnd8CrgHnnoJG3+TOzAxIcSggqN/7wCjI 64Yvs++bXoHjC88+6Riuk2+ep/NG0+x72zy4Yqz1ETy6bewsXzMHRdJ2owm25LWIexNP afqCkiv4sZlRWv+kIeLpbOkZNy5dh5jE2eivE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ObInk8TvKP1qcULVQVdtcHLqMGSTBQl3j1+5uRmmxkMlvWxrOjisodF4KDrqRZV/7o ZjrbNDozB7RT0zOlzWYLMvdVAotS7em4bDdz3LdjSa2Fisp2e4BtB8nn94CrKU8BfVa6 5fQ7tmqKUztmBK8xxiF6DJQRSEwZNhnVUK62c= Original-Received: by 10.86.86.12 with SMTP id j12mr940697fgb.64.1231788812871; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:33:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:43:33 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24040 Archived-At: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > The problem is that tool-bar-mode, and menu-bar-mode and too coarse: > they offer no way for the user to say whether he wants it to apply to > every single frame, or only to those currently displayed, or only the > current one, or only those on the current terminal, ... > > Also, making them work right would probably require keeping track for > each and ever frame of where its parameters came from. So tool-bar-mode > could just set default-frame-alist and then "refresh" every > frame's parameters. Isn't that a good general structure for all kinds of local/global settings?