From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56870: company-dabbrev variable documentation Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 10:34:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: <878ro74pz5.fsf@rfc20.org> <87y1w7ymiu.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: uzibalqa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37591"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Matt Armstrong , 56870@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 02 12:53:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oIpWO-0009ZR-Ch for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 12:53:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43326 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oIpWN-0001SD-8K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 06:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oIpEt-0006Ro-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 06:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52692) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oIpEs-00016i-Ok for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 06:35:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oIpEs-0005Bm-7b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 06:35:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: uzibalqa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 10:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 56870-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56870.165943649319926 (code B ref 56870); Tue, 02 Aug 2022 10:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56870) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2022 10:34:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oIpEi-0005BJ-V6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 06:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:40763) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oIpEd-0005B2-Li for 56870@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 06:34:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=kg67c662ufhdbi4d6ymm2w3q4m.protonmail; t=1659436481; x=1659695681; bh=MshHEbnT/+9MqE0PJUjdbmNLYomWjNuChrmZXFOfsOM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=cHSHes4uKuO0BOZLYzaC0AIlGk3rMmDKK5XpVErnWL7N35WfozSlh0lhUSWseNORt FSbvWPweeuhag06HRxlKx22Axk5dMstR6AvLBGZwRGitp4Mzrt3uqSYt7Pxx/mstJ5 /Ip00/HxNB90+E8enBbDiQ58e/wtkfX4qBQwbLpu/CgYCO3jpQZwHI18yWkulo9FlE CMuCUvZvUezmGVK1sqPu9SvnC4CJx809752CyCPHHWLkk08nr4yTNywfzTCcaJ+jVL KyngwF+jq9cmG9dyCIsi2VCm9UrdDDftJL9/FlPEo2a4htpT9spLNmP2O7uwtLaS2/ 1nWAZh0kCxVqQ== In-Reply-To: <87y1w7ymiu.fsf@gnus.org> Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" X-ACL-Warn: , uzibalqa Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:238513 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Tuesday, August 2nd, 2022 at 10:20 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Matt Armstrong matt@rfc20.org writes: > > > b) When lisp level interfaces expect strings they generally say so, and > > the examples use quotes like "this". > > > > c) A bare all (without any quotes at all), is just a word, and not > > a Lisp level function or variable. > > > So I don't think there's anything to fix in Emacs here -- we sometimes > say "the symbol `all'" if there's an unusual amount of possible > confusion present -- and I'm therefore closing this bug report. I still think you should be explicit as with "this", and present users with= what they will actually use, 'this. It is not good to expect a users to spend hours reading in the hope that he= will eventually figure out that what is written in the documentation is no= t what you write in your code. And then figure out how to solve it.