From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23604: desktop-restore-in-current-display should default to t Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <278b113b-21aa-5c54-6550-79bf1e481530@cs.ucla.edu> <51d2f8d4-03a4-d585-fe6f-cd61a7d71238@cs.ucla.edu> <00be9358-ec48-46da-adc9-52038ddf3b2c@default> <872ede03-6767-481d-8f05-9351c81ffd6d@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1464051329 10549 80.91.229.3 (24 May 2016 00:55:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 00:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23604@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero , Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 24 02:55:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b50ct-0006Y2-Aa for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 May 2016 02:55:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51015 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b50cs-0007BO-A3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 May 2016 20:55:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60255) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b50cm-00077y-LQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2016 20:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b50cg-0000QS-Nm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2016 20:55:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51240) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b50cg-0000QO-Jq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2016 20:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b50cg-0006pk-CN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2016 20:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 00:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23604.146405125526209 (code B ref 23604); Tue, 24 May 2016 00:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2016 00:54:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35344 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b50bv-0006of-Hf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2016 20:54:15 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:28061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b50bt-0006oQ-IM for 23604@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2016 20:54:14 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4O0s5XR018012 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 24 May 2016 00:54:05 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4O0s4kr018244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 24 May 2016 00:54:05 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u4O0s2sK001014; Tue, 24 May 2016 00:54:03 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:118607 Archived-At: > Am I making any sense? To me you are. Thanks for your input and your memory of the history. My hope is that something interesting and useful can come from trying to deal with bug #20274, whatever default value is chosen. The major question is that bug, I think: whether a nil use case can be made less problematic. Perhaps one way to start to trim it down a bit is to identify cases where it is problematic. E.g., "tmux terminal multiplexer atop xterm", "Emacs -nw", whatever else. And then try to do so programmatically. IOW, perhaps keeping a nil behavior need not be a case of all or nothing.