From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>,
"Andreas Schwab" <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>, Jaakov <j_k_v@ro.ru>,
13949@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13949: 24.4.1; `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de29e786-c335-4c3d-a486-db31202da321@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8760w8c6h4.fsf@wanadoo.es>
> >> Emacs thinks that the buffer is modified when actually it isn't,
> >
> > Emacs correctly tells you that the buffer has been modified. That the
> > buffer's contents now match the file's contents is irrelevant.
>
> It is very relevant for me and, judging by the comments of others on
> this and bug report and its duplicates, it is relevant for them too.
>
> The tools must be adapted to the mental model of their users.
Yes, and:
1. Different users have different use cases and different mental
models.
2. The same user has different mental models, depending on the
current context.
3. Code too, not just users, needs to be able to detect buffer
changes.
4. There are different kinds of buffer changes. It would be
good to have ways to detect these as such.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-27 15:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-13 22:09 bug#13949: 24.3.50; `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified Dani Moncayo
2013-03-14 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 7:57 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-03-14 10:27 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-14 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-14 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 18:34 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-14 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 19:01 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-14 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 19:32 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-03-15 4:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-15 7:27 ` Dani Moncayo
2013-03-14 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-14 18:34 ` Dani Moncayo
2016-03-22 10:50 ` bug#13949: 24.4.1; " Jaakov
2016-03-22 11:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-22 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 17:40 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 17:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-03-22 18:07 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-22 18:23 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-03-22 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 18:42 ` Jaakov
2016-03-26 23:46 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-27 3:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 7:44 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-27 15:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-28 8:01 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-27 8:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-27 14:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:15 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-03-27 15:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 18:53 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-27 15:13 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-27 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 15:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 18:22 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-27 15:29 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 17:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 17:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 15:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-27 16:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 10:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 11:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 11:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 11:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 13:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 15:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 15:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 15:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-28 16:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 17:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 17:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 8:09 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-27 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 20:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 21:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 22:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-03-27 15:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 15:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 15:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-27 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27 21:36 ` Jaakov
2016-03-27 16:08 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 17:52 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 18:40 ` bug#13949: (no subject) Jaakov
2016-03-22 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 19:07 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 19:53 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 21:58 ` Jaakov
2016-03-22 22:38 ` Glenn Morris
2016-03-23 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-23 17:45 ` Jaakov
2016-03-26 23:33 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-23 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-22 23:44 ` bug#13949: `fill-paragraph' should not always put the buffer as modified Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 4:55 ` bug#13949: fill-paragraph is buggy, but using MD5 is even more buggy Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 10:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-28 13:29 ` bug#13949: Aw: " Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 14:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-03-28 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 15:16 ` Petros Travioli
2016-03-28 17:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-28 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-28 19:03 ` Petros Travioli
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