From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20385: [PATCH] Support curved quotes in doc strings Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 18:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <1429555155-4695-1-git-send-email-eggert@cs.ucla.edu> <5552FDAC.4080004@cs.ucla.edu> <55534080.6010400@yandex.ru> <555369FD.30701@cs.ucla.edu> <5553D12F.7000809@yandex.ru> <5554155E.70000@cs.ucla.edu> <55547DC6.3090509@yandex.ru> <5555A4ED.8090500@cs.ucla.edu> <55562BB0.2010605@yandex.ru> <555640E9.4060203@cs.ucla.edu> <55564460.4020208@yandex.ru> <55566196.40105@cs.ucla.edu> <55566990.8020506@yandex.ru> <555686B7.60808@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431739464 1941 80.91.229.3 (16 May 2015 01:24:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 01:24:24 +0000 (UTC) To: Paul Eggert , Dmitry Gutov , 20385@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 16 03:24:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQpm-0007EH-DD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 May 2015 03:24:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33335 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQpl-0004vH-1C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47213) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQpi-0004vA-9a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:24:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQpf-0000Gs-2P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQpf-0000GE-08 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:24:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQpe-0000VW-IA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 01:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20385 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 20385-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20385.14317394141907 (code B ref 20385); Sat, 16 May 2015 01:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20385) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2015 01:23:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46641 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQpB-0000Uf-8h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:23:33 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30167) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YtQp8-0000UQ-QK for 20385@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:23:31 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t4G1NHW8027568 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 16 May 2015 01:23:18 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t4G1NHM7023516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 16 May 2015 01:23:17 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t4G1NGh3019085; Sat, 16 May 2015 01:23:17 GMT In-Reply-To: <555686B7.60808@cs.ucla.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102859 Archived-At: Our Esteemed Spokesman for Generation Z spake thus:=20 > Although Emacs old-timers are used to quoting `like this', to > newbies it's a weird and offputting relic from ancient history. Ooooo. Please show your research that led to that conclusion. Just how did you measure the feelings and reactions of our newbie population? Did you poll newbie Emacs users, for example? What were the results? How did you analyze them? How did you compare the feelings of weirdness and offputtingness our newbies expressed about `...' with those they expressed about other aspects of Emacs, and about Emacs in general? How does their reaction to `...' compare with their reaction to `M-x', `C-u C-x =3D', Lisp, and all the rest? Where's the beef? - Decrepit soixante-huitards would like to know.