From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Mendler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54747: 28.1.50; package.el - Better error message if newer Emacs is required Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 13:55:31 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9c7d2f03-5ee2-c5f8-e804-2c4dbf98a05e@daniel-mendler.de> <7647e4c3-2e5e-b09c-f9a7-aee42571e6d5@daniel-mendler.de> <874k35azgj.fsf_-_@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15076"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 54747@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 13:56:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ncQkU-0003kq-Kd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 13:56:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52552 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ncQkT-0004Xs-8i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58630) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ncQk6-0004Xj-PF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ncQk6-0000IH-Gf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ncQk6-0002H1-Ep for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Daniel Mendler Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 11:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54747 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 54747-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54747.16493325428711 (code B ref 54747); Thu, 07 Apr 2022 11:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54747) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2022 11:55:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60043 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ncQjl-0002GP-Ms for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:55:41 -0400 Original-Received: from server.qxqx.de ([178.63.65.180]:49429 helo=mail.qxqx.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ncQjj-0002GB-Gn for 54747@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:55:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxqx.de; s=mail1392553390; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From: References:Cc:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KPcM9u+sA1HgBLLdjVSNY7cRW085/l2OqadErWIXZWo=; b=lxOQD2Mz4sYufq8/Ap5RZxvjcq tFfq33lGsFbwGyNnqV5Ri9nn8CYXz1jvsOYs+KLvbHV7UNHielMLvWJykfz/Ih35Zghy58GctVcFW 75bec7WABj6Z+neZWSgRZmzc6JkRA8yh8hHO/onIzuHv5A1JG5X0tJtI/Sld5XSUewLw=; Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <874k35azgj.fsf_-_@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:229523 Archived-At: On 4/7/22 13:46, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I think it makes sense to make this error message better -- people may > be calling `package-install' explicitly. > > It'd be easier to debug this if I had a recipe for reproduction, though. > Do you have one handy? Hello Lars, unfortunately I don't have a good recipe at hand, but you can probably reproduce this with Emacs 26 when you try to install one of the newer packages, e.g., my vertico package from GNU ELPA. I am running Emacs 28 and I just went to `list-packages` and did `M-x package-install` on a package marked as "incompat". For some weird reason Emacs still installed the package while I would have expected an error now? Is this another bug? Regarding the error messages - I think even experienced users could profit from slightly improved error messages which explain dependency resolution failure. - Package X version V requires package Y version W, which is unavailable. The newest available version of Y is W'. - Package X version V requires package Y, which is unavailable. The package Y cannot be found in the archives. - Package X version V requires package Y version W, which cannot be installed. The dependency Z of Y cannot be satisfied. - ... Daniel