From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: 35367@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35367: 26.2; `dired-copy-how-to-fn' and HOW-TO arg of `dired-create-files'
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd28182c-a94d-4654-9d7c-48124886657e@default> (raw)
1. I believe `dired-copy-how-to-fn' was added to Emacs quite a while ago
(1991[1]). But it's not clear to me what it's really for, and there
seem to be no uses of it in the distributed Emacs code, apart from
`dired-do-copy', which just passes it on to `dired-create-files'.
The variable's doc just says to "See HOW-TO argument for
`dired-create-files'."
So why was this variable created?
2. Apart from the variable, why was the HOW-TO arg of
`dired-do-create-files' added? I find no uses of it, apart from
`dired-do-copy' (which just passes it along).
Presumably someone thought that someone might want to pass such a
thing to `dired-do-copy', but why?
Half the doc of `dired-do-create-files' is for this parameter. And
its description, although probably correct and complete, reads like
gobbledygook, to me.
For one thing, the nil case should not be described under this
parameter; it should be described as the function's default behavior,
up above the parameter list. (That's already 4 lines of its
description.)
Beyond that:
* A value of `t' is unclear to me. What does it mean to target a
plain file - is this the same as using a `nil' value? What happens
with `t' if the target is a directory or if there are multiple
marked files? Is that where the difference lies somehow (how)?
* A unary function value is the most confusing. I can't follow it,
I'm afraid.
If HOW-TO is to stay (and I assume it is) then we really need some
kind of motivating explanation - perhaps an example of why/when/how
you would use a function here. With no existing examples in the code
this seems a bit
maybe-someone-someday-might-need-this-thing-that-somebody-dreamed.
It was apparently RMS who added this [1]. I'm surprised that it's
not more clear what good it is.
[1] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25075#20
In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
of 2019-04-13
Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17134
Configured using:
`configure --without-dbus --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32
--without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=-O2 -static -g3''
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2019-04-21 19:30 Drew Adams [this message]
2019-07-09 14:21 ` bug#35367: 26.2; `dired-copy-how-to-fn' and HOW-TO arg of `dired-create-files' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-11 5:51 ` Mike Kupfer
2019-07-11 14:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-11 14:18 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-12 3:20 ` Mike Kupfer
2019-07-12 3:33 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-22 14:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2020-07-30 4:01 bug#42611: 26.3; edit-abbrevs lets me type and commit, but doesn't store anywhere and abbrevs don't work Brett Randall
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