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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: 35367@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35367: 26.2; `dired-copy-how-to-fn' and HOW-TO arg of `dired-create-files'
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd28182c-a94d-4654-9d7c-48124886657e@default> (raw)

1. I believe `dired-copy-how-to-fn' was added to Emacs quite a while ago
   (1991[1]).  But it's not clear to me what it's really for, and there
   seem to be no uses of it in the distributed Emacs code, apart from
   `dired-do-copy', which just passes it on to `dired-create-files'.
   The variable's doc just says to "See HOW-TO argument for
   `dired-create-files'."

   So why was this variable created?

2. Apart from the variable, why was the HOW-TO arg of
   `dired-do-create-files' added?  I find no uses of it, apart from
   `dired-do-copy' (which just passes it along).

   Presumably someone thought that someone might want to pass such a
   thing to `dired-do-copy', but why?

   Half the doc of `dired-do-create-files' is for this parameter.  And
   its description, although probably correct and complete, reads like
   gobbledygook, to me.

   For one thing, the nil case should not be described under this
   parameter; it should be described as the function's default behavior,
   up above the parameter list.  (That's already 4 lines of its
   description.)

   Beyond that:

   * A value of `t' is unclear to me.  What does it mean to target a
     plain file - is this the same as using a `nil' value?  What happens
     with `t' if the target is a directory or if there are multiple
     marked files?  Is that where the difference lies somehow (how)?

   * A unary function value is the most confusing.  I can't follow it,
     I'm afraid.

   If HOW-TO is to stay (and I assume it is) then we really need some
   kind of motivating explanation - perhaps an example of why/when/how
   you would use a function here.  With no existing examples in the code
   this seems a bit
   maybe-someone-someday-might-need-this-thing-that-somebody-dreamed.

   It was apparently RMS who added this [1].  I'm surprised that it's
   not more clear what good it is.

[1] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25075#20


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             reply	other threads:[~2019-04-21 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-21 19:30 Drew Adams [this message]
2019-07-09 14:21 ` bug#35367: 26.2; `dired-copy-how-to-fn' and HOW-TO arg of `dired-create-files' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-11  5:51   ` Mike Kupfer
2019-07-11 14:04     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-11 14:18     ` Drew Adams
2019-07-12  3:20       ` Mike Kupfer
2019-07-12  3:33         ` Drew Adams
2022-01-22 14:43     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-07-30  4:01 bug#42611: 26.3; edit-abbrevs lets me type and commit, but doesn't store anywhere and abbrevs don't work Brett Randall
     [not found] ` <handler.42611.B.159608273314264.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <(Brett>
2020-10-17  8:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-27 10:36   ` brett.randall
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2020-10-27 10:43     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-27 10:49       ` Brett Randall
2020-10-27 11:08         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]           ` <(Lars>
     [not found]             ` <Ingebrigtsen's>
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2020-10-27 11:19           ` bug#42611: (no subject) Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]             ` <877drbhq6c.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]               ` <handler.42611.C.160379757411378.notifdonectrl.0@debbugs.gnu.org>
2020-10-27 22:22                 ` bug#42611: 26.3; edit-abbrevs lets me type and commit, but doesn't store anywhere and abbrevs don't work Brett Randall
2020-05-21 16:56 bug#41438: [PATCH] Allow windmove keys to be bound without prefix or modifiers Philip K.
2020-05-21 22:18 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-22 18:26   ` Philip K.
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2020-05-22 19:15                           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-23 22:12                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-06-26 19:46 ` Philip K.
2020-06-27 23:53   ` Juri Linkov
2020-06-28  8:30     ` Philip K.
2020-06-28 23:37       ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-05 18:05         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-05 23:40           ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-06  9:28             ` Philip K.
2020-08-06 23:43               ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-07 10:53                 ` Philip K.
2020-08-08 23:54                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-12 20:38                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-12 21:27                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-22 20:29                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-22 21:09                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-23  6:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 12:36                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25  5:12                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-25  7:25                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25  9:53                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 11:16                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 11:42                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 13:31                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 14:39                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 11:36                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 11:46                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 13:58                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 19:13                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-25 19:16                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-25 19:25                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 20:18                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-25 21:45                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-26 21:35                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-27 11:09                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-30 22:11                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-31  8:50                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-31 20:15                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-31 21:27                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-06-03 20:36                                           ` Juri Linkov
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