Hello, When the ctwm window manager is restarted, the emacs fullscreen frame, set with `F11' key, shifts up by approximately 50 pixels and shows the desktop background. The right edge of the frame shifts a little to the left. Expect the fullscreen frame to remain unchanged. To demonstrate, 1. start, `emacs -Q' 2. enlarge frame to fullscreen, `F11' 3. call, `Restart CTWM' from window manager menu on X 4. see the fullscreen frame bottom edge is shifted up 50 pixels approximately X. expect to see no change to fullscreen frame when ctwm restarts for comparison, a fullscreen xterm frame remains unchanged when ctwm restarts => http://sdf.org/~van.ly/img/emacs-fullscreen-frame-0.webp . => http://sdf.org/~van.ly/img/emacs-fullscreen-frame-1-shifts-up.webp . => http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2024/11/23/msg031998.html discussion about shifted fullscreen frame behavior