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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j17sm7102632lfr.32.2020.08.19.01.44.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2020 01:44:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k0xwj97f.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185552 Archived-At: >>>> -accent and apostrophe @kbd{`like this'}, it is converted (...) >>>> [...] >>>> +accent and apostrophe @verb{|`like this'|}, it is converted (...) >>> >>> Neither can I see a discussion of the @kbd -> @verb{| change. >> >> (...) >> - changed @kbd to @verb, because @kbd surrounds text with pair of >> curved quotes in plain text - result it ‘``like this''’, @verb >> doesn't do it; > > That is really confusing, yes... But I was wondering about the | > characters? TEXINFO manual: Like LaTeX's '\verb' command, the verbatim text can be quoted using any unique delimiter character. Enclose the verbatim text, including the delimiters, in braces. Text is printed in a fixed-width font: How many @verb{|@|}-escapes does one need to print this @verb{.@a @b.@c.} string or @verb{+@'e?`{}!`\+} this? produces How many @-escapes does one need to print this @a @b.@c string or @'e?`{}!`\ this? I would prefer using @verb in these cases, but with good font outer quotes (printed by the @kbd command) are "curved", so it's bearable. S. U.