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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 52493@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#52493: 29.0.50; Setting Inconsolata up in init.el makes default face rendered wrong
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 02:34:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc9d4319-3202-5634-7a6d-2e2cd4264c3c@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32ac6060-a7ed-a0c4-1c62-f0e1804d963d@gmx.at>

On 10/01/2023 14:05, martin rudalics wrote:
>  >> Here, for example, a maximized frame does not have the "right
>  >> height".
>  >
>  > Yeah ok, but none of the frames were maximized in those scenarios.
> 
> I mentioned it because that's how it usually can be reproduced easily
> with emacs -Q.
> 
>  > And the resizing by mouse "snapped" to the provided grid.
> 
> The resolution of that grid is specified by Emacs via these four lines
> 
>    size_hints.width_inc = frame_resize_pixelwise ? 1 : 
> FRAME_COLUMN_WIDTH (f);
>    size_hints.height_inc = frame_resize_pixelwise ? 1 : 
> FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f);
> 
>    size_hints.width_inc /= scale;
>    size_hints.height_inc /= scale;
> 
> If you scale by 2 and you have a font with impair sizes, you lose one
> pixel and the grid will be smaller than the character size.  If we round
> up in the last two lines, the grid will be larger than the character
> size by one pixel.

So... the window manager works with "unscaled" pixels it has to multiply 
by 2? That's why we try to send half the actual value?

> If we do not scale, the grid will have a resolution
> of two characters.  What would you prefer?

The current behavior seems more intuitive. Too bad we can't make it 
behave precisely, but oh well.

>  > I'm probably out of my depth here, but with 2x scaling, shouldn't the
>  > height increment just be 2x larger than the original one? If N is
>  > integer, 2xN must be an integer as well.
> 
> You're scaling down whatever you display probably because otherwise
> displayed objects would appear to small for your eyes.  That is, while
> Emacs lives in a 4000x2000 pixels world say, it's presented to your eyes
> in a 2000x1000 pixels form.

That makes sense.

>  > Pixel dimensions do change in this scenario. But not the reported 
> text height.
> 
> Right.  That's what rounding is all about
> 
>  >> xg_frame_resized old native pixels 1424x1368 new native pixels 
> 1408x1368
>  >> adjust_frame_size old native pixels 1424x1368 new native pixels 
> 1408x1368 old text pixels 1376x1368 new text pixels 1360x1368 old text 
> chars 80x36 new text chars 80x36
>  >> xg_frame_resized old native pixels 1408x1368 new native pixels 
> 1408x1332
>  >> adjust_frame_size old native pixels 1408x1368 new native pixels 
> 1408x1332 old text pixels 1360x1368 new text pixels 1360x1332 old text 
> chars 80x36 new text chars 80x36
>  >>
>  >> represent two mouse operations that resize the frame by 16 pixels, 
> first
>  >> the width, then the height.  Both are less that the character size so
>  >> while again the size of the frame should have changed, the numbers of
>  >> text characters didn't.
>  >
>  > The frame size didn't change either, however.
> 
> That's not what the numbers say.  The first time, the width changed from
> 1424 to 1408 pixels.  The second time, the height changed from 1368 to
> 1332 pixels.

I was talking about the Scenario 3: the frame dimensions (pixelwise) 
didn't change in it.

>  > All right. Where do we go from here?
> 
> I think you should use the attached in your daily work.  It's the same
> as before with the tracing code omitted.  If there are bigger problems,
> use the former patch and post me the contents of *foo*.

Thank you, but I'm not sure my work is particularly affected by it. 
Having the frame width settle on 80 chars is pretty nice, I suppose, but 
after that I usually maximize the frame anyway. Or make it take half the 
screen.

I believe getting the details right is important, but it's probably not 
worth too much as a personal patch.

It would be nice, though, to avoid the frame size contortions during 
startup. I think it goes through 4 different sizes, at least. This patch 
doesn't seem to change the number of transitions, however.

>  > The usability problems remaining are very minor, so if you're saying 
> Emacs is going right thing, we might as well go with the latest patch 
> and call it a day. Thank you.
> 
> Note that I won't install anything in the near future because I've given
> up synching with the repository.  The last time I did, I spent a couple
> of weeks to fix whatever got broken here.

Is there anything I can do to help? Your patch applies cleanly to the 
emacs-29 branch, at least.

If you send the patch together with a commit message, I can install it 
no problem (to the release branch or to master, whatever it deemed to be 
the best in this case).





  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-12  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 169+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14 23:43 bug#52493: 29.0.50; Setting Inconsolata up in init.el makes default face rendered wrong Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-15 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-15 22:43   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-16  7:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-16 13:01       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-16 13:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-16 13:42           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-16 14:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-16 14:57               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-16 15:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-16 15:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-16 15:42                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-16 16:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17  0:49                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-17  7:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17  7:46                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-17  8:38                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21  1:14                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-21  9:38                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-21 12:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 23:39                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-22  7:18                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-25 22:42                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-21 13:40                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-21 23:39                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-22  7:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-25 22:42                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-26 12:20                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-26 14:05                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-22 20:32                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-25 22:42                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-26  0:46                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-26 12:25                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-29 22:45                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-30 14:47                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 15:40                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-30 16:14                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 16:27                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-30 17:01                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-30 17:28                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-26 15:48                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-26 16:19                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-27  2:04                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-28 15:20                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-28 17:01                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-27  1:58                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-28 15:19                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-21 12:11                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 12:30                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-17 13:01                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 13:21                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-17 13:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 14:06                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-17 14:42                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 19:17                           ` martin rudalics
2022-12-21  1:08                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-21  9:22                               ` martin rudalics
2022-12-21 12:56                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-21 17:05                                   ` martin rudalics
2022-12-21 23:00                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-22 10:15                                       ` martin rudalics
2022-12-22 20:39                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-23  9:14                                           ` martin rudalics
2022-12-23  9:19                                             ` martin rudalics
2022-12-23 18:48                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-24  9:27                                               ` martin rudalics
2022-12-24 13:38                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-25 10:21                                                   ` martin rudalics
2022-12-25 13:01                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-25 16:07                                                       ` martin rudalics
2022-12-25 16:52                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-26  9:10                                                           ` martin rudalics
2022-12-27 23:15                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-28 10:08                                                               ` martin rudalics
2022-12-28 12:31                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-28 17:35                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2022-12-28 22:35                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-29  9:05                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2022-12-29 22:29                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-30  9:51                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2022-12-31 19:01                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2023-01-05  1:50                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-05  9:47                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2023-01-05 14:14                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-05 16:59                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2023-01-05 19:08                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-06 17:47                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2023-01-06 18:14                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-06 22:40                                                                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-06 23:45                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-06 23:49                                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-07  0:48                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-07  0:50                                                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-07  9:48                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2023-01-08  9:45                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2023-01-08 22:38                                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-08 23:23                                                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-09 10:09                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2023-01-09 17:28                                                                                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2023-01-07  9:15                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2023-01-09  0:12                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-09 10:07                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2023-01-09 20:50                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-10 12:05                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2023-01-12  0:34                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2023-01-12  9:31                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2023-01-12  9:46                                                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2023-01-12 10:23                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2023-01-12 23:53                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-13  0:36                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-13  8:38                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2023-01-16  1:27                                                                                                             ` bug#60585: 30.0.50; global-text-scale-adjust shrinks window (was not before), was: " Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 10:03                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2023-01-16 12:44                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 16:10                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2023-01-17  1:54                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 10:04                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2023-01-17 17:35                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 17:13                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2023-01-21  3:12                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-21 10:08                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2023-01-22  1:56                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-22  9:54                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2023-01-22 22:25                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-24 10:50                                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2023-01-25  4:20                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-26 15:44                                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2023-01-27  3:07                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-27  9:35                                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2023-01-28  0:22                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-28 15:36                                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2023-01-29  1:25                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-30  9:28                                                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2023-02-09 19:40                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
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2023-02-17 11:54                                                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-12 12:55                                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-13 10:09                                                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2023-02-17  2:05                                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-20  9:05                                                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2023-02-22  1:42                                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-24 17:54                                                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2023-02-27  1:29                                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-21 13:43                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-24  1:03                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-24  8:52                               ` martin rudalics
2022-12-24  9:39                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-24 10:45                                   ` martin rudalics
2022-12-24 11:24                                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-24 13:02                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-25 22:52                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-12-16 15:36                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-16 16:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17  0:13                       ` Dmitry Gutov

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