From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31815: 27.0; Inappropriate use of curly quotes in `info.el' Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <80f28e80-65fa-439e-b313-5ad616ef0dbd@default> <87k1pxam2a.fsf@gmail.com> <35a57007-ee1d-41c3-b7e5-be20a3c735ec@default> <878t6c9ojp.fsf@gmail.com> <4f6094d3-9054-4ba2-a35e-c12c68bd9edf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531750273 23643 195.159.176.226 (16 Jul 2018 14:11:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31815@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 16 16:11:09 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ff4DT-00062t-VJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:12:10 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w6GEC91j020796; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:12:09 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4717.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8955 signatures=668706 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=762 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1806210000 definitions=main-1807160166 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148569 Archived-At: > > The point of a bug report is to state the problem >=20 > I wish you would follow this advice when making bug reports. For > example, in this report, instead of proposing a partial fix and > assuming that it's clear that you're asking for that restoration + > some other fix, ask something like: "these characters cause X problems > in scenario Y, is there an ASCII-only equivalent we can use?" I agree. I try to do that, and will try harder. Sometimes pointing toward what might be better can help make the problem clearer. And sometimes that bleeds over into what can sound like a description of a solution (or even the solution). For the record and future reference: That's never my intention. Except when I might actually propose a solution (e.g. a patch), I just report bugs. And even when I might propose a solution (e.g. patch) I don't insist on considerations that are purely implementation, e.g., performance. I might express an opinion about the effect on users of this or that proposed solution, but I don't claim that code I offer is the most performant etc. possible. (I might also express a slight opinion about coding style, names etc., readability etc., but again, such an opinion is not so important. I care about getting a bug fixed, not so much about how it is fixed internally, i.e., in ways that are not user-observable. I do care to some extent about the usability of the code itself, i.e., for users of the code.)