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Sat, 22 Apr 2023 06:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <834jp82u5c.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260454 Archived-At: On 22/04/2023 11:33, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 03:57:03 +0300 >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Cc:jporterbugs@gmail.com,philipk@posteo.net,62720@debbugs.gnu.org, >> joaotavora@gmail.com,larsi@gnus.org,monnier@iro.umontreal.ca >> >>> That's what I imagined: adding a new optional argument to >>> package--updateable-packages which would include builtins in the result. >>> >>> And only pass it when called from package-upgrade. >>> >>> Hopefully that's the kind of optional that you meant. >> Here's a patch which does that. The diff could be reduced (the >> package-update part) by binding the new option >> (package-install-upgrade-built-in), but I figured it's better to avoid >> interdependency while we're still deciding what to keep. > Thanks, but this is not what was being discussed, AFAIU. What I said > I'd agree to is to have package-update accept a prefix argument and > heed package-install-upgrade-built-in (perhaps renamed), I think I explained in the previous email why reusing package-install-upgrade-built-in doesn't seem like a good idea. > and only then > update built-in packages. I asked what plausible scenario you think might be broken by having package-update upgrade builtin package by default. Do you want to answer that? > I also don't think I like the significant changes in package-update, > nor understand why they are needed. Like I said: the changes are to avoid relying on package-install being able to install a package that's already installed. Which currently works only for builtins and when only a user option is set. It's a mess. And to "avoid interdependency". Just to be clear, we are talking about the 4 lines at the end, right?