From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15777: 24.3.50; cl symbols are no more fontlocked Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87d2mk399d.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383319285 28397 80.91.229.3 (1 Nov 2013 15:21:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15777@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 01 16:21:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGXM-0002WH-Dx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 16:21:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38749 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGXL-0000VF-LP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:21:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48729) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGX9-0000UV-AM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:21:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGX0-0005R0-N8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:21:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43613) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGX0-0005Qv-JG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGX0-0001qj-9l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15777 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15777-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15777.13833192147035 (code B ref 15777); Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15777) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2013 15:20:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57632 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGWB-0001pN-TT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:20:13 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:23107) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VcGW8-0001p7-77 for 15777@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:20:09 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rA1FK0Ap025996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:20:01 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA1FJx4W015062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:19:59 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA1FJxVn015052; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:19:59 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79859 Archived-At: > > Hi, symbols from cl package are no more fontlocked, (e.g loop, > > defun* etc...) >=20 > That's on purpose, because we want to discourage their use. > Symbols from cl-lib are font-locked. Misguided, IMHO. Plenty of people will use Emacs 24.4 (and 25 and 26...) with packages that work also with older versions, and thus sometimes employ `cl.el' functions (even in addition to `cl-lib.el' functions). *Encourage* use of `cl-lib.el' (be positive). Do not downgrade Emacs just to make the point that `cl-lib.el' now exists. Please try to look beyond the snapshot that is the latest nifty Emacs development to the wider world of Emacs _users_. There is no reason to gratuitously make their experience worse. You gain nothing by that, and they (and Emacs) lose.