From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: MON KEY Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3740: documentation of args to `documentation-property' differ info<-->docstring on 23.0.92.1 thru 23.0.95 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:42:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <6a8wj61oc8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4A4DA956.30902@gmx.at> Reply-To: MON KEY , 3740@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246665466 14921 80.91.229.12 (3 Jul 2009 23:57:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3740@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 04 01:57:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MMsdO-0005ze-Um for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:57:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59062 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MMsdO-00033U-9L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MMsdK-00033B-4J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MMsdF-00031R-K4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51672 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MMsdF-00031O-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:35695) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MMsdE-0001EK-Lm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n63NvPAY004881; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:57:26 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n63No4pA003354; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:50:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: MON KEY Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:50:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3740 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3740-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3740.12466645822311 (code B ref 3740); Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:50:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3740) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Jul 2009 23:43:02 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com (mail-gx0-f212.google.com [209.85.217.212]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n63NgwLb002294 for <3740@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:42:59 -0700 Original-Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so3067163gxk.1 for <3740@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.124.11 with SMTP id w11mr3050065anc.165.1246664572797; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:42:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A4DA956.30902@gmx.at> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:29166 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:46 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > The current Elisp reference manual features more than 500 such > {...} > recompile, rebuild. Doing this manually would get people busy for quite > some time. Sure, but this particular case is significant in a way that other +/- 499 might not be; `documentation-property' relates to the documentation of documentation. Me: "How shall I get at a symbol's documentation?" Me to myself: "RTFM!" Me: "Manual doesn't agree with source..." Me to myself: "Hrmmm... well, FTFM!" Getting to discrepancies like this one is _kinda_ important. Again, in this _particular_ situation this is not simply a discrepancy but a fundamental inconsistency w/re to Emacs. I understand that this particular situation may pose a bootstrapping issue. However, if that is the case then it certainly doesn't hold that the 'discrepancy' is of "no importance". What exactly does it say that the one true self documenting editor can't/won't correctly self document the very documentation of how it self documents? Actually - on second thought - disregard the previous rhetorical question its not of any importance... > martin s_P