From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22564: Fundamental mode isn't fundamental enough. Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:23:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20160205125559.GC7727@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454703929 21418 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2016 20:25:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 20:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22564@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 05 21:25:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmwI-00049a-BZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 21:25:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50285 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmwE-0006jP-Bq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:25:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39196) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmwA-0006jC-RG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:25:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmwA-0005r4-0d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54422) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmw9-0005qo-UG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:25:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmw9-0003WE-Mm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:25:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 20:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22564 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22564-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22564.145470385113461 (code B ref 22564); Fri, 05 Feb 2016 20:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22564) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2016 20:24:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmvL-0003V3-Il for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:24:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47752) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmvK-0003Uq-0O for 22564@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:24:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmvE-0005es-31 for 22564@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59552) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmv8-0005eg-NZ; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:23:58 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aRmv8-0001uV-5X; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 15:23:58 -0500 X-Spook: Reyosa Chemical spill AQIM Federal Air Marshal Service X-Ran: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:55:59 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112525 Archived-At: Still fighting the electric-indent fight I see. Purely as a data point, from the Emacs manual: The least specialized major mode is called "Fundamental mode". This mode has no mode-specific redefinitions or variable settings, so that each Emacs command behaves in its most general manner, and each user option variable is in its default state. It would therefore be against the spirit of fundamental mode to introduce any mode-specific behaviour for it.