From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25548@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#25548: 25.1; Wrong Emacs version for Emacs 25.1.2 (?)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 10:13:04 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cdd1ea29-9693-48ac-9199-8764be93db14@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<8337g41ohu.fsf@gnu.org>>
> > > > How, from Emacs itself, does a user tell the difference between
> > > > 25.1-1 and 25.1-2?
> > >
> > > The value of system-configuration-options should be different.
> >
> > Show does a user or Lisp code see those options from _within_
> > Emacs?
>
> With "M-: system-configuration-options RET".
I see this from `C-h v system-configuration-options":
"--without-dbus --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=-O2 -static -g3'"
How does that tell you anything about the label "25.1.1",
which appears in the output of `M-x emacs-version' or
the label "25.1-2" that appears in the zip-file name?
> > > > How to know?
> > >
> > > See the node "Version Info" in the ELisp manual.
> >
> > The only thing there (that I can see) that remotely refers
> > to something like "25.1.2" is the undescribed, unexplained
> > _output_ of `(emacs-version)':
> >
> > "GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.16)
> > ^^^^^^
> > of 2015-06-01"
>
> No, it also explains how to distinguish official releases from pretest
> versions.
That's not what I said. It tells you nothing about what
"24.5.1" (or in the current case, "25.1.1") means in the
output of `emacs-version'. And it tells you nothing about
what (in the current case) "25.1-2" means in the name of
the zip file.
> > > > Is all this supposed to be clear to users?
> > >
> > > This information is not necessarily of importance for users. It is
> > > important in bug reports, which is why report-emacs-bug includes it.
> > > But inquisitive users can find the information in the Emacs manuals.
> >
> > I haven't seen where.
>
> I've told you where.
No, I don't think you have. See above. I see no explanation
of the "25.1.1" nomenclature that appears in the output of
`emacs-version'. And I see no explanation of the "25.1-2"
nomenclature that appears in the zip-file name.
> > > > At the mirrors where you download these things there is no
> > > > description/explanation. (They don't even tell you what the
> > > > difference is between zips x86 and i86.)
> > >
> > > The explanations you are looking for are in the README file that is
> > > right near the zip archives.
> >
> > I don't think so. That README is similar to (but also different
> > from) the README.W32 that is included in the zip file. AFAICT,
> > neither file describes the 25.1-2 (or whatever other number)
> > that appears in the zip-file name. Searching for "zip" in each
> > of those readme files does not find anything that talks about this.
>
> It also says this:
>
> There are two binary distributions named
> emacs-n-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip and
> macs-n-i686-w64-mingw32.zip. These are for 64-bit and 32-bit
> machines respectively.
>
> You asked about 32-bit vs the 64-bit versions; that part
> answers the question.
Yes, but it does not answer the question about "25.1-2".
> > Can you point me to the passage that explains the 25.1-2 in the
> > zip name, which I've not been able to find?
>
> That's the "-n-" part above.
Yes, n = 25.1-2, here. But where is the explanation of it,
saying what n = 25.1-2 means?
> > Another question is why we have two different designations
> > for build 2 of release 25.1: "25.1.2" and "25.1-2".
>
> No, we have only one: 25.1.2. The other one is just the name of a
> file.
I think you (and I) meant 25.1.1, no? It is apparently 25.1.1
that corresponds to 25.1-2 in the file name. When I evaluate
`(emacs-version)' in the build from the zip file with name
25.1-2 it tells me:
GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2016-11-15
It says 25.1.1, not 25.1.2.
Still looking for an explanation of such numbering, in both
the output of `emacs-version' and the zip-file name.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-27 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-26 21:00 bug#25548: 25.1; Wrong Emacs version for Emacs 25.1.2 (?) Drew Adams
2017-01-26 22:10 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-01-26 22:30 ` Drew Adams
2017-01-26 23:40 ` npostavs
2017-01-27 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<38cc5265-9e0f-433b-bb6e-02f371006061@default>
[not found] ` <<83y3xx0x1p.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-01-27 15:40 ` Drew Adams
2017-01-27 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<<38cc5265-9e0f-433b-bb6e-02f371006061@default>
[not found] ` <<<83y3xx0x1p.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<f0fe5bc2-c65c-49b6-91a3-2b4580184ec2@default>
[not found] ` <<8337g41ohu.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-01-27 18:13 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-01-27 18:30 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-01-27 18:49 ` Drew Adams
2017-01-27 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
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