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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463811583-224949352-1624549808=:3559 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 24 Jun 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> More generally, I'm not sure we should even say this in the Emacs >>> manual, as these features belong to the desktop, not to Emacs. >> >> This section of the manual already describes how to start Emacs from systemd, which isn¢t part of Emacs either. > > systemd support code is in emacs.c, so that is (borderline) okay. > What you describe is just normal desktop invocation, AFAIU. It¢s not normal to provide two different desktop entries for launching an application in slightly different ways. However, I don¢t object if we think that this addition to the manual is superfluous and decide to drop it. >> +may use the @dfn{Emacs (Client)} menu entry to connect to an Emacs > > It is wrong to use @dfn here, since this is not new terminology you > are introducing. Better use @samp. > >> +server with @command{emacsclient}. If the daemon is not already >> +running, it will be started for you. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Please try rephrasing this to avoid passive tense. 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