From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:04:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <838s0fpixr.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jtr45c.fsf@gnu.org> <87v93avtoe.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1dyvtav.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtolx6de.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5960"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com, Richard Stallman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 09 15:05:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJju-0001LU-H0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 15:05:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51032 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJjt-0005q1-3x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJjj-0005po-Bq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51064) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJji-0001CC-02 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJjh-0005C2-Nc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:05:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163119264919890 (code B ref 21695); Thu, 09 Sep 2021 13:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2021 13:04:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34377 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJir-0005Aj-2O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:04:09 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:53618) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mOJim-0005AY-B9 for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2021 09:04:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1631192643; bh=WbvT5deYdTH/S78pYVxyB8ZynXxnU/61WVmx2ns3kdo=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=X21FR90/VqjZkAm/3JVGth1Gx/a3bjGF6eLtp95FZXLW1QseW5ugl+T2RLAkMVUzo 0pdoKNTOD6T9VOl2o5o0mDcPFiUAOmPjtQf+8lvyLFHNbi4lecUHw+t2QLD5NOEuHe WM+XrbfpjSxcp4PLNTFbM7/auAP6P/XK3puKOYkGyVhbqc+vk2OkKOltS0WyI+ruAE jUe1bL++6Tz6FrUg3YSfNu8334/B73KZqX7JB+UU8dy4xTjFySPNGeM9nigAKtgXCj Huy5WrdFxeG+6f56Wk0kfBxAA9vdsg9QZGo48LpNJ8mXDqAqWf3be48CBM3PaKFWlf D8x1zqp5ilnbQ== In-Reply-To: <87mtolx6de.fsf@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:213902 Archived-At: > > If we're to do something about this, then somebody would have to go > through all the defcustoms with :set and try to identify some that > should, indeed, not be set with setq and tag them up. (There aren't a > lot of these.) > You mean, adding something like a :set-with-customize tag to those variables? Do you have an example of a variable with a :set for which it isn't problematic to use setq, and an example for which it is? I tried to find the problematic example you mentioned in the manual, but did not find it.