From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" <ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: chiaki.ishikawa@ubin.jp, larsi@gnus.org, 39413@debbugs.gnu.org,
npostavs@gmail.com
Subject: bug#39413: 26.2; Emacs gets hung
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:56:35 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ccfad585-62b2-2f48-4a19-7f40f223ea39@yk.rim.or.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83v9458vwe.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2021/08/16 20:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, npostavs@gmail.com, 39413@debbugs.gnu.org,
>> chiaki.ishikawa@ubin.jp
>> From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" <ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:27:01 +0900
>>
>> But if you look slightly above, you will notice CPU core #4 is used 100%
>> (!).
>> That is emacs process. No other process is running that earnestly at
>> that moment.
> If we believe everything these tools show us, maybe. But those tools
> suffer from the same problem Emacs does on a busy system: the tool
> itself might not get CPU to update its data, so you actually see a
> snapshot of what it saw last time it did get CPU.
>
>> PS: I found profiler-cpu-* functions, but I don't think it is wise to
>> run them during GC since they seem to allocate vector tables. However,
>> taking a snapshot of strack trace every now and then during GC seems
>> attractive for my investigation to figure out WHERE in GC, the excessive
>> time is spent.
> Emacs built-in profiling will not help us here, because it cannot
> profile below Lisp primitives.
>
Very tough.
I will see what I can do and report back if anything interesting shows up.
(The last time I tried to see where the time was spent, GC was busy
reclaiming |cons| cells.
May not mean much.
I can only recall the old paper and in an 16 GB environment (including
OS), we may see some bad behavior.
"
Address/memory management for a gigantic LISP environment or, GC
considered harmful
"
by Jon L. White
https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/800087.802797
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-20 1:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-04 9:32 bug#39413: 26.2; Emacs gets hung chiaki-ishikawa-thunderbird-account
2020-02-04 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-05 1:11 ` chiaki-ishikawa-thunderbird-account
2020-02-21 17:27 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-02-22 17:53 ` chiaki-ishikawa-thunderbird-account
2020-04-28 21:36 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2020-04-29 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30 2:45 ` chiaki-ishikawa-thunderbird-account
2020-05-20 4:31 ` chiaki-ishikawa-thunderbird-account
2020-05-25 12:15 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-25 15:50 ` chiaki-ishikawa-thunderbird-account
2020-06-08 8:17 ` chiaki-ishikawa-thunderbird-account
2021-08-10 16:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-11 1:08 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2021-08-11 6:07 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2021-08-11 7:22 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2021-08-11 11:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-11 13:46 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2021-08-11 11:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-11 13:41 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2021-08-12 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-15 23:27 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2021-08-16 0:20 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
2021-08-16 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20 1:56 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki [this message]
2021-09-17 14:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 9:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 7:04 ` ISHIKAWA,chiaki
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