From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade' Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 00:28:14 +0300 Message-ID: References: <2726a957-a2a8-3b89-8930-2d620d83491e@alphapapa.net> <83sfd7c1v1.fsf@gnu.org> <875ya3euof.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7615"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.0 Cc: Adam Porter , Eli Zaretskii , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 62750@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 11 23:29:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pmLYP-0001hE-Hg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 11 Apr 2023 17:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259681 Archived-At: On 10/04/2023 17:31, Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: >> I don't think that "update" and "upgrade" have that clear of a semantic >> difference in practice to necessitate a renaming. > I'd tend to agree. Here's an argument in favor of renaming: These commands use the term 'update'. But package-menu-mark-upgrades, which has been in package.el for years, uses the term 'upgrade' in its name and its docstring ("all upgradable packages", etc). There are a few auxiliary functions which also use that term, but this is the public-facing one. So now we have divergent terminology. Which implies that there is some difference between "upgrading" and "updating" in package.el, while there is none.