From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16216: 24.3.50; entries in `ucs-names' Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:08:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <> <<83lhzd8roz.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387688956 17474 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2013 05:09:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 05:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16216@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 22 06:09:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VubI0-0001sL-9I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 06:09:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56621 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VubHz-0001jZ-Oz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:09:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VubHp-0001h7-Pk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:09:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VubHi-00012z-UF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:09:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48100) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VubHi-00012v-R4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VubHi-0003Eb-8r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 05:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16216 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16216-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16216.138768892212396 (code B ref 16216); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 05:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16216) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2013 05:08:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VubHN-0003Ds-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:08:42 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VubHL-0003Di-0H for 16216@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:08:39 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rBM58bGx029978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 05:08:38 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBM58aBu026389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 05:08:37 GMT Original-Received: from ubhmt103.oracle.com (ubhmt103.oracle.com [156.151.24.8]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBM58a3X023051; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 05:08:36 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83lhzd8roz.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82386 Archived-At: > Look at UnicodeData.txt, near the beginning of the file. I see; thanks. And I recall now that you pointed me to that file once before. Still, that does not really answer the questions I posed, AFAICT. At least not for a user of `ucs-names' or the other functions mentioned. If `ucs-names' essentially corresponds to UnicodeData.txt, how about citing that in its doc? Better yet, perhaps cite this, which seems to be the place that the fields of UnicodeData.txt are described: http://www.unicode.org/Public/5.1.0/ucd/UCD.html#UnicodeData.txt Still, part of my question is about `insert-char' and `read-char-by-name', which is really what most users will see. (Those are admittedly not the same as `ucs-names'. But they are currently the only consumers of the latter.) Should the `' entries of `ucs-names' be included for the completion provided by `read-char-by-name'? You can only choose one of them, anyway. What is the use case for that - the reason it is included as a possibility for `C-x 8 RET'?