From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31796: 27.1; dired-do-find-regexp-and-replace fails to find multiline regexps Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 17:43:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <10120030-8b8d-b702-add4-8f099f934ed5@chalmers.se> <831rgivl7l.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29218"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 Cc: 31796@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Andreas Abel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 24 16:45:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khaVn-0007T7-1n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:43:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <831rgivl7l.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:194081 Archived-At: On 24.11.2020 17:16, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > In fact, some of the passion in Dmitry's response wasn't directed at > you, it was directed at myself and other senior maintainers who > frequently object to changes and/or request complicated > backward-compatibility shims, for that very reason. In a way, perhaps. Even though I've been on the other side of these discussions as well. But I was mostly pointing out a logical incompatibility to a user who installs a new release, but doesn't want to see anything change, ever. > So please don't assume we don't care about stability, or don't care > enough. It would be simply unfair to make such assumptions. We > certainly don't need lectures about keeping Emacs stable and > compatible. That's true. > What you see in this case is not the result of negligence or > carelessness, it is the result of not being aware of this (relatively > rare) use case becoming broken when we changed the UI of this and > similar commands to a more convenient one. It took time for people to > report the problem, and it takes us more time to come up with a good > solution. That's all. We've been aware of it for at least two years now. So what are we, then, negligent, careless, or incompetent? If you're saying we can't afford to break even a minor feature like this, I don't think there are a lot of options.