From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 17:02:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <00ad01c942a0$1f49ca60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87eef9qg81.fsf@gnus.org> <1869622e162377be79e9@heytings.org> <83bladw0dh.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6pxqdeg.fsf@gnus.org> <875z0lqcj4.fsf@gnus.org> <1869622e1602a39e56a6@heytings.org> <87a6pwvcrv.fsf@md5i.com> <1869622e165c625e097b@heytings.org> <874kg4vast.fsf@md5i.com> <1869622e166ad3c37a69@heytings.org> <87k0ozq3n8.fsf@gnus.org> <87blabpy54.fsf@gnus.org> <8735vnpqho.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="eTRe4humA8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11872"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , jasonspiro4@gmail.com, 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 18 19:07:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lYAt3-0002zW-4T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 19:07:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38224 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYAt2-0002hW-7B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46938) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYAp4-0008A9-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36098) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYAp3-0006g4-PO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:03:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYAp3-0001t6-MM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:03:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 17:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1305.16187653587226 (code B ref 1305); Sun, 18 Apr 2021 17:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2021 17:02:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47644 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYAog-0001sU-KU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:02:38 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43484) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lYAof-0001sM-0U for 1305@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:02:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1618765355; bh=XiWEOnHCbGrUq5seXZS3cmFKs//X2jcBgXbBPu36Oe4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=ZLyCQlxah5MyBHejwG4/RNW/r5VRmQD+eJQiMSoP1CckGlN2Fq7ZXJG6RMJbFD7IY B95l9MO+IoBfmZ/joEn+l/Y6kukAj3AkouQeQls5/qwbrC5vSQI84AzmeT9MMT4/iZ dKBe44MTNp/ceNfkII9Bq18UiGovpzoK9GItXlr18PMzOxAZyLAlA1V44OfLGIV3ZS 9PZUoRqicXoNJN5GhDF9378JAqU6+i2H6ZE0yiVK+5NqKO/o9v5XMaDNcxrFNEON64 OJyhKwsbgYk2iXwnECMKgn9m5JfRYzknfVksxE+ifUGRVdfvR9jhcvXjgDEK1GRZvS mp/yW+PEmm5eg== In-Reply-To: <8735vnpqho.fsf@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:204373 Archived-At: --eTRe4humA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > I think, perhaps, introducing a new visible bell (across all significant > system), that's considerably less intrusive than the ones we have today > on GNU/Linux and Macos, might be an option. 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