From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22300: 25.1.50; Dired -- renaming folders/files to CamelCase/UPPERCASE/lowercase. Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 08:15:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <45748772-3d35-49f5-a350-5d04d023fd23@default> <83twmt73g6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451924208 14841 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2016 16:16:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22300@debbugs.gnu.org, jwiegley@gmail.com, esq@lawlist.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 17:16:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7oA-0006uO-0k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 17:16:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45687 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7o9-00006R-AY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:16:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7nj-0007tJ-QI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:16:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7ne-00066Z-MY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:16:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7ne-00066F-Gv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7ne-0006Ut-Ct for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22300 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22300-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22300.145192413024922 (code B ref 22300); Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22300) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2016 16:15:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7n8-0006Tu-1t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:15:30 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:42919) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aG7n6-0006Ti-C2 for 22300@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:15:28 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u04GFKIw022954 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:15:21 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u04GFK2L020310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:15:20 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u04GFKoP005028; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:15:20 GMT In-Reply-To: <83twmt73g6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111197 Archived-At: > > Okay. But (1) he _is_ able to do it using `mv foo Foo', and > > (2) MS Windows is also case-insensitive for files and folders, > > and I can easily use `R' to rename a directory `foo' to `FOO', > > and vice versa. (Emacs asks me to confirm that I want to rename, > > but that's all.) >=20 > For some value of "easily", yes. On the C source level, Emacs works > very hard (a.k.a. "jumps through hoops") to allow you doing that > easily, and it does that only for MS-Windows and MS-DOS, whose > filesystems are known to be case-insensitive. OS X doesn't have that > privilege. Ah, so that's the bug, then. Emacs does not know that OS X is case-insensitive and it doesn't have code to special-case it as it does for MS Windows. > If OS X filesystems are always case-insensitive, perhaps the same code > should also be compiled on that system. If some of OS X filesystems > are case-sensitive, we can only do that if Emacs can know which one is > it. That sounds right to me.