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I hope Thunderbird does not mess up the format. FSF copyright assignment is in process, but probably not yet completed. Regardless of this being a test patch, it fixes a real but minor doc issue in the Gnus manual: In 2012 Lars committed a change that removed the previous "external marks" feature from various backends (89b163db286d79b43fb5c9927fc622bbf7d2ef1a). The Gnus manual still references these external marks in section "Archiving Mails", I guess that reference just got overlooked. But without external marks, archiving mails in Gnus is rather difficult (to my knowledge), at least for the nnml backend. So I decided to rather remove that section entirely. Thanks Jens * doc/misc/gnus.texi: Remove obsolete information on archiving mail from Gnus manual --- doc/misc/gnus.texi | 25 ------------------------- 1 file changed, 25 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/misc/gnus.texi b/doc/misc/gnus.texi index be7504c92bf..e08a5587962 100644 --- a/doc/misc/gnus.texi +++ b/doc/misc/gnus.texi @@ -713,7 +713,6 @@ Top Browsing the Web -* Archiving Mail:: * Web Searches:: Creating groups from articles that match a string. * RSS:: Reading RDF site summary. @@ -17247,7 +17246,6 @@ Browsing the Web interfaces to these sources. @menu -* Archiving Mail:: * Web Searches:: Creating groups from articles that match a string. * RSS:: Reading RDF site summary. @end menu @@ -17264,29 +17262,6 @@ Browsing the Web Unplugged}) handle downloading articles, and then you can read them at leisure from your local disk. No more World Wide Wait for you. -@node Archiving Mail -@subsection Archiving Mail -@cindex archiving mail -@cindex backup of mail - -Some of the back ends, notably @code{nnml}, @code{nnfolder}, and -@code{nnmaildir}, now actually store the article marks with each group. -For these servers, archiving and restoring a group while preserving -marks is fairly simple. - -(Preserving the group level and group parameters as well still -requires ritual dancing and sacrifices to the @file{.newsrc.eld} deity -though.) - -To archive an entire @code{nnml}, @code{nnfolder}, or @code{nnmaildir} -server, take a recursive copy of the server directory. There is no need -to shut down Gnus, so archiving may be invoked by @code{cron} or -similar. You restore the data by restoring the directory tree, and -adding a server definition pointing to that directory in Gnus. The -@ref{Article Backlog}, @ref{Asynchronous Fetching} and other things -might interfere with overwriting data, so you may want to shut down Gnus -before you restore the data. - @node Web Searches @subsection Web Searches @cindex nnweb -- 2.30.2