From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29586: Please revert change to package deletion Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:59:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83mv2twl5w.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512756019 18205 195.159.176.226 (8 Dec 2017 18:00:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 18:00:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: adam@alphapapa.net, 29586@debbugs.gnu.org, John Wiegley To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 08 19:00:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwW-0004Vr-6Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 19:00:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38459 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwd-0005N5-GT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:00:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44189) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwT-0005Lc-Aw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:00:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwN-0007Nb-VP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:44129) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwN-0007NX-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:00:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwM-0005DK-Eg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:00:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 18:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29586 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29586-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29586.151275599420000 (code B ref 29586); Fri, 08 Dec 2017 18:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29586) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2017 17:59:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52810 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwE-0005CW-18 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:59:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53079) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMwC-0005CG-5l for 29586@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:59:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMw6-0007Fl-EZ for 29586@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:59:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMw1-0007Bu-52; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:59:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eNMw0-0005YR-HO; Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:59:40 -0500 X-Spook: Air Marshal Hugo Chavez LABLINK Gangs Emergency X-Ran: T?Dj5xKo3Efo#M>D@Ztb~N]GO>w;d7q22Z,^*SzNK`U&O&#]-PM>9$IaFa{\y[ze}@F@xb X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <83mv2twl5w.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:47:55 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140830 Archived-At: I don't have a strong opinion, but: I don't know of any package management system that when uninstalling a binary package moves all the files to a trash directory. It seems to me this is being used in lieu of some features other package systems do implement, and that package.el could benefit from: a transaction history a downgrade command a rollback command caching of the _source_ when installing a package package archives that provide convenient access to old versions (maybe this exists for elpas, I don't know)