From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25131: thwarted from copying what one sees in Info Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 15:21:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <<87r35kmc1v.fsf@jidanni.org>> <<87r35jr97l.fsf@jidanni.org>> <<3529e973-7e42-49b9-9bf0-85cba12a91af@default>> <<83k2bbil94.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481152933 4663 195.159.176.226 (7 Dec 2016 23:22:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 23:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@suse.de, jidanni@jidanni.org, mbork@mbork.pl, 25131@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 00:22:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cElXK-0000CY-H7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2016 00:22:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42996 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cElXO-0007e8-In for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 18:22:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cElXI-0007dz-Vq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 18:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cElXF-0001dj-RE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 18:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45041) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cElXF-0001df-No for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 18:22:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cElXF-0006mN-IS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 18:22:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25131 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25131-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25131.148115288726015 (code B ref 25131); Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25131) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2016 23:21:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60440 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cElWg-0006lX-Ry for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 18:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:16794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cElWe-0006lK-Gj for 25131@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 18:21:25 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uB7NLGtv021664 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 7 Dec 2016 23:21:17 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uB7NLGSq016292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 7 Dec 2016 23:21:16 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uB7NLEvl015040; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 23:21:14 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83k2bbil94.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126712 Archived-At: > > On the other hand, I disagree that we should add a special command > > just for copying Info breadcrumbs. A _general_ solution to the need > > to copy displayed stuff (including overlays) should instead be sought. >=20 > What would be the UI, assuming we don't want the user to have to find > out on her own that there's an overlay or a display property at some > point? I don't know. We can think about that possibility. But for this bug, I think just extending the existing command that gives you the node name, by letting a prefix arg give it to you as a full path (breadcrumbs - in whatever textual form), would be good. Wrt knowing whether an overlay etc. present (e.g., whether some displayed text is copiable from the buffer or is a display artifact): That's a general UI problem. Perhaps when a user tries to perform some actions (e.g. copy text) a message should tell her that the text is just for display etc.