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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
Cc: 25357@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#25357: 25.1; Doc for `cursor-sensor-mode' (and modes generally)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 21:50:29 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcd0da83-e266-4c27-a678-d429f07d7d58@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8b44z72.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>

> > ** How so, "again"?  Here we are telling someone how to turn it
> > on interactively.  I think we should also tell them how to do it
> > using Lisp.
> 
> This is a subjective thing of course.  I guess it seems obvious to me
> that a command can be called as a function, and it's explained in
> `(elisp) What Is a Function'.  Adding cross references to that in every
> place we talk about invoking some command is just clutter.

Yes, of course.  But I don't think it is obvious to some
who read the _Emacs_ manual how they might turn on a major
mode using Lisp.

I've seen enough people confused about this, especially
given the very different way they turn on a minor mode
(which is better documented, if still inadequate - see
the bug about minor-mode doc strings).

You may say that such users do not _need_ to invoke a
major mode function from Lisp.  And if they do, and
they do it the usual way (for a file), they do it using
`auto-mode-alist'.

Still, some try to do it using `(the-mode-name ...)',
passing various things as argument.  They guess...

I don't see anywhere in the Elisp manual a simple
statement that they just need to use `(the-mode-name)'.
AND that it is generally a good idea to use
`auto-mode-alist' when the buffer is a file buffer.

I don't feel strongly about any of this, but I do think
it could help some users to lay it out explicitly.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-06  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<de93b37f-921f-4a6e-9f29-a357cf6b1c55@default>
     [not found] ` <<83o9zmemfo.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-01-04 18:07   ` bug#25357: 25.1; Doc for `cursor-sensor-mode' (and modes generally) Drew Adams
2017-01-04 18:56     ` Noam Postavsky
2017-01-04 19:06       ` Drew Adams
2017-01-04 19:27         ` Noam Postavsky
2017-01-04 21:02           ` Drew Adams
2017-01-05  3:45             ` npostavs
2017-01-05  4:29               ` Drew Adams
2017-01-06  3:58                 ` npostavs
2017-01-06  5:50                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-01-06  7:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-08 17:15                   ` npostavs
2017-01-05 15:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <<83mvf6em4p.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-01-04 18:08     ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<9ad8b225-73da-4533-a676-b0f8e84e54ca@default>
     [not found] ` <<CAM-tV--ymvk7wQ9VyBCSse1fQQqVxoH9htTnZdHmZGZYeH543A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <<a9c8bee8-1564-4bd3-81c4-2753a14e53a9@default>
     [not found]     ` <<CAM-tV-_+WRvc6+jZpHgywOx0XdgPUxdqyGc40cJ+R2s8ZyL=TQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <<a2675f96-d075-408b-81e2-3a3045148b76@default>
     [not found]         ` <<878tqq5fw2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>
     [not found]           ` <<678f8299-e6e8-4b08-a412-bf367194f6d7@default>
     [not found]             ` <<87a8b44z72.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>
     [not found]               ` <<bcd0da83-e266-4c27-a678-d429f07d7d58@default>
     [not found]                 ` <<83lguod3i4.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-01-06 14:50                   ` Drew Adams
2017-01-04 17:44 Drew Adams
2017-01-04 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-04 18:05   ` Eli Zaretskii

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