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[89.161.9.216]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h22sm35222ljk.86.2019.06.06.14.19.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jun 2019 14:19:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1583c6b3-2421-794d-8c8b-86287ef3fd5a@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:160196 Archived-At: > Another idea is that maybe texinfo somehow doesn't recognize “ and ” > and uses ASCII approximations? Small update. The thing about quotes not being recognized may be good idea, because when you compile: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage[OT4]{fontenc} \begin{document} {\ttfamily “like this”} \end{document} with OT4 or OT1 you will get \like this", but when you use 'T1' you will get l/r double quotation marks. So the problem may be in font encoding. As for straight apostrophe and grave accent someone who knows tex should look into @kbd{} and @samp{} and @code{} to find what they have, so they can display straight apostrophe and grave accent in typewriter shape (i.e. not making them curved), and just apply the code to @t{}. I also found in MODES.TEXI - L210: -example, it requotes text typed @t{`like this'} to text @t{‘like +example, it requotes text typed @kbd{`like this'} to text @t{‘like You may fix it just like you did in BASIC.TEXI.