From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 22043@debbugs.gnu.org, m.kupfer@acm.org
Subject: bug#22043: 25.0.50; search-forward and char folding
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:41:16 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc7949e5-fa16-42a8-bd16-ecb0280c421c@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<837fl0obox.fsf@gnu.org>>
> > Isn't it correct and sufficient to say that non-regexp
> > incrementalsearch uses character folding by default?
>
> No, because "C-s RET" actually invokes a regexp search behind the
> user's back when character folding or lax-whitespace are in effect,
> and the user has no way of knowing whether it invoked a regexp or
> non-regexp search.
>
> > IOW, isn't this default behavior true for all incremental
> > search commands except regexp search, and only for those
> > commands (no non-incremental search commands)?
>
> No. Nonincremental vs incremental is not the issue. The issue is
> whether the search function that the command employs uses regexps or
> not. It is a limitation of how these features are implemented that
> they absolutely require regexp search.
OK, but from a user point of view, is this not the case:
1. S?he invokes search using `C-M-s' or `C-s', which are
advertised as regexp and plain (non regexp) search. IOW,
regardless of what might go on under the covers (and a
lot already does, for lax whitespace searching), s?he
thinks of `C-s' as performing a non-regexp search.
2. There is no character folding with the "regexp" commands
(`C-M-s'), because char folding substitutes its own regexp
for the user input, and char folding does not currently
parse regexp-pattern user input.
Perhaps, to be more precise, the difference is search that
does or does not accept general regexp patterns as _input_.
Those that do have "regexp" (or "-re-"?) in their name;
those that do not do not have it. The former do not
support char folding; the latter do. Is that correct (and
complete)?
I guess I was mistaken in thinking that non-incremental
search commands, such as `nonincremental-search-forward',
do not support char folding (regardless of whether they
include "-re" in their name). Which ones support it, and
under what circumstances?
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2015-11-29 20:41 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-11-30 4:53 ` bug#22043: 25.0.50; search-forward and char folding Mike Kupfer
2015-11-30 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 9:54 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-30 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 20:31 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-30 20:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 7:37 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-12-01 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 20:30 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-12-02 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-08 12:06 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-08 15:08 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-12-08 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 22:11 Mike Kupfer
2015-11-28 23:57 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-29 16:53 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29 21:29 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-30 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-29 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-29 19:03 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-29 19:08 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-29 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-29 20:31 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
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