From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1111: describe-key's key notation display inconsistency Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <06D80DE1-FCD6-45BB-B2D9-A968F797971C@xahlee.org> <85mugj3aqp.fsf@gmail.com> <0d832886-8112-4331-bd84-b9edbeac4398@default> <85k1bn3527.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="18613"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: xah lee , 1111@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 09 00:17:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hvqib-0004kc-8Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 08 Aug 2019 22:15:53 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x78MDVjN169234; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 22:15:53 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2u7579n969-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 08 Aug 2019 22:15:52 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x78MFlTf006133; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 22:15:47 GMT In-Reply-To: <85k1bn3527.fsf@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9343 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908080196 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9343 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1908080196 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164781 Archived-At: > > Presumably the key described as `' (or > > `M-', per Xah), where `' is a function > > key, would correspond to event `M-d', which > > might already be problematic (no?). >=20 > I don't think so, (kbd "M-d") =3D> [?\M-d], > but (kbd "") =3D> [M-D]. I'm talking about the _event_. The value of the event is a symbol. In both cases (I think) it would be the symbol `M-d'. > > but have you ever come across a single-char > > function-key name? >=20 > No (and I didn't mean to say that assuming > all function key names are multi-character > is unreasonable). (I didn't expect that you did mean that.) My point (in this tangent discussion) is that it is possible to drop the angle brackets. And the result would be a lot less noise. But unless we also added a convention such as no single-char function-key names, there could be some rare ambiguity. One way to avoid that rare case of ambiguity would be to use angle brackets only for the case of single-char names.