From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Urban Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43323: Rename cua-mode to something better? 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Since the description of this menu entry is in >> the tooltip, we could leave only "Use CUA Keys" and remove "(Cut/Paste >> with C-x/C-c/C-v)". > > That'd be a step in the wrong direction: the menu item should be > sufficiently self-explanatory. Well, CUA keys are CUA keys, so it is self-explanatory, and if someone doesn't know what it is, and for some reason don't want to look for explanation in the manual/internet, then tooltip comes to the rescue. > And we just established that "CUA" is not something whose meaning > many users will immediately understand. So what? The tooltip will give them a tip about what it is. In my opinion, these menu entry name & manual changes are unnecessary. S. U.