From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: 39847@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, 28182@debbugs.gnu.org,
jidanni@jidanni.org
Subject: bug#28182: bug#39847: Document how users can make text-zoom keys same as browser
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 12:24:28 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba3e4dd4-f73b-4e1b-bb19-0ec1b1f1b21f@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pndt43ie.fsf@stefankangas.se>
> >> I also wished that C-+ and C-- would scale
> >> the screen, just a few months ago.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we don't need C-- to make the argument negative.
> >> Perhaps it is enough that M-- does that.
> >
> > My preference would be against doing that.
> > It's true that `M--' does the same thing -
> > so we may not _need_ `C--'. But Control
> > is very handy for prefix args.
>
> I suggest binding this to s-- and s-+. Would that be an acceptable
> compromise? It would be backwards compatible, and these keys are
> currently unbound.
If you're asking me, then my answer is no. I
don't see how it would be a compromise (at all),
and I don't see how it would be backward
compatible. How so?
My reasons against this proposal:
1. It doesn't help with the argument currently
being given, which is that users are used to
`C-+/-'. `s-+/-' doesn't help at all, given
such a habit, does it?
2. We already have `C-x +/-'. Why would we need
or want two such sets of keys, by default?
3. Given the choice (if we were to pick only one)
between `C-x +/-' and `s-+/-', the former is
better, IMO:
a. It's been the default binding for a long time;
Emacs users are already used to it.
b. Some platforms may not have a `Super' modifier
key, by default.
c. Using a repeatable key (`+/-') that's on a
prefix key doesn't waste a repeatable key that's
not on a prefix key. IOW, if on a prefix key,
`+/-' remains available without the prefix key,
for some other repeatable action (by "repeatable",
here, I mean by just holding down a key).
d. If `+/-' is on keymap `ctl-x-map' then it's easy
to move or copy it and the other keys on that
map to another prefix key.
Just one opinion.
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-29 23:06 bug#39847: Document how users can make text-zoom keys same as browser 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-01 3:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-01 5:23 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-01 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-02 0:23 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03 3:37 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-03 15:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-03-03 16:31 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03 19:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2017-08-22 3:05 ` bug#28182: maybe implement CTRL++ to zoom text 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-22 12:30 ` Nathan Moreau
2017-08-22 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-23 14:16 ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-23 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-23 23:05 ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-08-23 23:23 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-23 14:57 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-23 15:55 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-23 16:05 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-23 16:19 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-23 23:11 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2017-08-23 23:28 ` Drew Adams
2019-08-21 1:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-21 2:12 ` Drew Adams
2019-08-21 13:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-24 22:06 ` Juri Linkov
2019-08-27 0:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-27 21:13 ` Juri Linkov
2019-09-28 13:09 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-28 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-28 14:15 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-29 1:09 ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-29 1:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-29 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-29 15:33 ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-29 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-29 15:37 ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-29 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-29 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-30 3:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 9:02 ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 9:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-02 20:17 ` Alan Third
2019-09-30 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-15 6:42 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-15 14:15 ` Drew Adams
2019-10-16 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-15 17:51 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 3:27 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-05 23:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-06 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06 19:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-07 18:22 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-08 14:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-08 21:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-09 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-09 21:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-10 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-11 0:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-10 8:00 ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-11 0:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-11 5:53 ` Robert Pluim
2019-10-13 22:05 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-09 20:54 ` Juri Linkov
2020-03-03 20:03 ` bug#28182: bug#39847: Document how users can make text-zoom keys same as browser 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03 20:24 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-03-03 20:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-03-03 21:04 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-03-03 21:13 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-05 12:08 ` bug#28182: " Lars Ingebrigtsen
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