From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14941: [Patch] Lighten up wrt version specification Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 08:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <8b0062be-4eb9-4cfe-a994-5dbdeec4eb93@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394725404 6181 80.91.229.3 (13 Mar 2014 15:43:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14941-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Tom Willemse Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 13 16:43:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7n7-0004FG-Pr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 16:43:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7n7-0002wA-E1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:43:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7mq-0002dA-Ar for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:43:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7mg-0006c6-N5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34844) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7mg-0006bw-KG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7mf-0000uu-TK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:43:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14941 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14941-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D14941.13947253273399 (code D ref 14941); Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14941-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2014 15:42:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36026 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7lm-0000sk-Qt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:42698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WO7lj-0000sb-QP for 14941-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s2DFg2tm030334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:42:02 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s2DFg1xB016863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:42:01 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s2DFg1TI007714; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:42:01 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:86825 Archived-At: > I installed this hunk, but not the other. IOW, you did not fix bug #14941. Neither the "this hunk" nor "the other" you refer to are part of the bug 14941 thread; they are part of #15108. Please change bug #14941 to "wont-fix", which correctly reflects its new status. > If a "Version:" header is missing, it should stay as an error, because > package.el relies heavily on version numbers. There is no such "because" - illogical. That package.el relies heavily on version numbers is irrelevant. It need not rely on the presence of a `Version:' specification to nevertheless rely on a version number. It need simply consider lack of an explicit `Version:' spec as specifying version 0. It is reasonable to have a default behavior, and that is the right default value. As for `Version: ' vs `Version: 0': As the bug #14941 report says, an empty version field can indicate - to human readers - that the file is not versioned. For package.el it means only that any version will do when the file is required. But to humans it can indicate more: that the file is not versioned. This is a minor point, but there is no reason for package.el to require the explicit "0". It's a program. It can assume "0" for an empty field here, just as it can assume `Version: 0' for no version spec.